10:45 a.m.
Hi all,
Trying to set up two computers on the same network to sync and change the
setcps for both for example, so I am looking on this
https://tidalcycles.org/index.php/Multi-user_Tidal
I changed the ip address and boot file accordingly to the second computer
but when I reboot tidal it says "Exception: Network.Socket.sendTo:
unsupported operation (Can't assign requested address)"
We haven't yet tried with pdpt as I understood it can also work with the
native network clock, unless I have misunderstood something.
Boot file on second computer looks like this (network set up line is on the
beginning):
:set -XOverloadedStrings
:set prompt ""
:set prompt-cont ""
import Sound.Tidal.Context
-- total latency = oLatency + cFrameTimespan
tidal <- startTidal (superdirtTarget {oLatency = 0.1, oAddress =
"127.0.0.1", oPort = 57120}) (defaultConfig {cFrameTimespan = 1/20})
tidal <- startTidal (superdirtTarget {oLatency = 0.02}) (defaultConfig
{cFrameTimespan = 1/20, cTempoAddr = "192.168.43.116"})
let p = streamReplace tidal
let hush = streamHush tidal
let list = streamList tidal
let mute = streamMute tidal
let unmute = streamUnmute tidal
let solo = streamSolo tidal
let unsolo = streamUnsolo tidal
let once = streamOnce tidal False
let asap = streamOnce tidal True
let nudgeAll = streamNudgeAll tidal
let all = streamAll tidal
let resetCycles = streamResetCycles tidal
let setcps = asap . cps
let xfade i = transition tidal (Sound.Tidal.Transition.xfadeIn 4) i
let xfadeIn i t = transition tidal (Sound.Tidal.Transition.xfadeIn t) i
let histpan i t = transition tidal (Sound.Tidal.Transition.histpan t) i
let wait i t = transition tidal (Sound.Tidal.Transition.wait t) i
let waitT i f t = transition tidal (Sound.Tidal.Transition.waitT f t) i
let jump i = transition tidal (Sound.Tidal.Transition.jump) i
let jumpIn i t = transition tidal (Sound.Tidal.Transition.jumpIn t) i
let jumpIn' i t = transition tidal (Sound.Tidal.Transition.jumpIn' t) i
let jumpMod i t = transition tidal (Sound.Tidal.Transition.jumpMod t) i
let mortal i lifespan release = transition tidal
(Sound.Tidal.Transition.mortal lifespan release) i
let interpolate i = transition tidal (Sound.Tidal.Transition.interpolate) i
let interpolateIn i t = transition tidal
(Sound.Tidal.Transition.interpolateIn t) i
let clutch i = transition tidal (Sound.Tidal.Transition.clutch) i
let clutchIn i t = transition tidal (Sound.Tidal.Transition.clutchIn t) i
let anticipate i = transition tidal (Sound.Tidal.Transition.anticipate) i
let anticipateIn i t = transition tidal
(Sound.Tidal.Transition.anticipateIn t) i
let d1 = p 1
let d2 = p 2
let d3 = p 3
let d4 = p 4
let d5 = p 5
let d6 = p 6
let d7 = p 7
let d8 = p 8
let d9 = p 9
let d10 = p 10
let d11 = p 11
let d12 = p 12
let d13 = p 13
let d14 = p 14
let d15 = p 15
let d16 = p 16
:set prompt "tidal> "
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3:12 p.m.
hi all,
same on here. Although I have managed to run the ptpd and clock sync two
mac's, I am getting the same error. No luck with synchronization for two
computers.
Looking forward to deliver any comments
Selcuk ARTUT
selcukartut.com
facebook.com/selcuk.artut
Instagram: selcukartut
music: rawlivecoding.com // replikas.com
arts: zilbermangallery.com
academics: sabanciuniv.academia.edu/SelcukArtut //
researchgate.net/profile/Selcuk_Artut
design : filikatasarim.com
On Tue, Mar 5, 2019 at 1:46 PM Konstantinos Vasilakos <
konstantinos.vasilakos(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Hi all,
Trying to set up two computers on the same network to sync and change the
setcps for both for example, so I am looking on this
https://tidalcycles.org/index.php/Multi-user_Tidal
I changed the ip address and boot file accordingly to the second computer
but when I reboot tidal it says "Exception: Network.Socket.sendTo:
unsupported operation (Can't assign requested address)"
We haven't yet tried with pdpt as I understood it can also work with the
native network clock, unless I have misunderstood something.
Boot file on second computer looks like this (network set up line is on
the beginning):
:set -XOverloadedStrings
:set prompt ""
:set prompt-cont ""
import Sound.Tidal.Context
-- total latency = oLatency + cFrameTimespan
tidal <- startTidal (superdirtTarget {oLatency = 0.1, oAddress =
"127.0.0.1", oPort = 57120}) (defaultConfig {cFrameTimespan = 1/20})
tidal <- startTidal (superdirtTarget {oLatency = 0.02}) (defaultConfig
{cFrameTimespan = 1/20, cTempoAddr = "192.168.43.116"})
let p = streamReplace tidal
let hush = streamHush tidal
let list = streamList tidal
let mute = streamMute tidal
let unmute = streamUnmute tidal
let solo = streamSolo tidal
let unsolo = streamUnsolo tidal
let once = streamOnce tidal False
let asap = streamOnce tidal True
let nudgeAll = streamNudgeAll tidal
let all = streamAll tidal
let resetCycles = streamResetCycles tidal
let setcps = asap . cps
let xfade i = transition tidal (Sound.Tidal.Transition.xfadeIn 4) i
let xfadeIn i t = transition tidal (Sound.Tidal.Transition.xfadeIn t) i
let histpan i t = transition tidal (Sound.Tidal.Transition.histpan t) i
let wait i t = transition tidal (Sound.Tidal.Transition.wait t) i
let waitT i f t = transition tidal (Sound.Tidal.Transition.waitT f t) i
let jump i = transition tidal (Sound.Tidal.Transition.jump) i
let jumpIn i t = transition tidal (Sound.Tidal.Transition.jumpIn t) i
let jumpIn' i t = transition tidal (Sound.Tidal.Transition.jumpIn' t) i
let jumpMod i t = transition tidal (Sound.Tidal.Transition.jumpMod t) i
let mortal i lifespan release = transition tidal
(Sound.Tidal.Transition.mortal lifespan release) i
let interpolate i = transition tidal (Sound.Tidal.Transition.interpolate) i
let interpolateIn i t = transition tidal
(Sound.Tidal.Transition.interpolateIn t) i
let clutch i = transition tidal (Sound.Tidal.Transition.clutch) i
let clutchIn i t = transition tidal (Sound.Tidal.Transition.clutchIn t) i
let anticipate i = transition tidal (Sound.Tidal.Transition.anticipate) i
let anticipateIn i t = transition tidal
(Sound.Tidal.Transition.anticipateIn t) i
let d1 = p 1
let d2 = p 2
let d3 = p 3
let d4 = p 4
let d5 = p 5
let d6 = p 6
let d7 = p 7
let d8 = p 8
let d9 = p 9
let d10 = p 10
let d11 = p 11
let d12 = p 12
let d13 = p 13
let d14 = p 14
let d15 = p 15
let d16 = p 16
:set prompt "tidal> "
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10:12 a.m.
Hey there,
Is there any duo/group/band performing with multi computers in the community? We could
play with two computers in sync before the TidalCycles v 1.0.0 update. Now, we get
Exception messages whenever we try to run BootTidal.hs with the following line on the
slave computer as stated in the documentation;
tidal <- startTidal (superdirtTarget {oLatency = 0.02}) (defaultConfig
{cFrameTimespan = 1/20, cTempoAddr = "192.168.0.10"})
Our setup;
- 2 identical Macbook 13 inch
- OS is High Sierra
- Both computers have ethernet cable inputs
- Both computers have the latest Haskell release
- Both computers have the latest TidalCycles release
- Both computers have the latest SuperCollider release
What we can do:
- Clock Sync via ptpd (source: https://github.com/ptpd/ptpd)
Works smoothly on both Master and Slave computers which are connected to a basic ADSL
modem via network cables. Whenever I change the time/date on the master computer, slave
computer syncs to master computer’s time instantly. So, I can say that no problem with
clock sync.
- Local IP of the computers are static. We can ping them and getting responses.
- We can connect through samba server to both computers and access files
What we tried to fix the problem;
- Run the same BootTidal.hs file on different code editors (VS Code and Atom). But, no
luck.
- Disable the static IPs
- Give access to port(9160) on both UDP/TCP of the ADSL modem. No luck.
- Connect two computers with just a network cable without any ADSL modem. No luck.
- Dig into source code to find any clues about the debug messages. But no luck.
So, we are just stuck and hope to find a solution till our next performance :)
Any comments/suggestions would be highly appreciated.
Alp TUĞAN
personal: alptugan.com <http://alptugan.com/>
music: rawlivecoding <http://rawlivecoding.com/>
business: filikatasarim.com <http://www.filikatasarim.com/>
On 7 Mar 2019, at 18:12, selcuk artut <selcukartut(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
hi all,
same on here. Although I have managed to run the ptpd and clock sync two mac's, I am
getting the same error. No luck with synchronization for two computers.
Looking forward to deliver any comments
Selcuk ARTUT
selcukartut.com <http://selcukartut.com/>
facebook.com/selcuk.artut <http://facebook.com/selcuk.artut>
Instagram: selcukartut
music: rawlivecoding.com <http://rawlivecoding.com/> // replikas.com
<http://replikas.com/>
arts: zilbermangallery.com <http://zilbermangallery.com/>
academics: sabanciuniv.academia.edu/SelcukArtut
<http://sabanciuniv.academia.edu/SelcukArtut> //
researchgate.net/profile/Selcuk_Artut
<http://researchgate.net/profile/Selcuk_Artut>
design : filikatasarim.com <http://filikatasarim.com/>
On Tue, Mar 5, 2019 at 1:46 PM Konstantinos Vasilakos
<konstantinos.vasilakos(a)gmail.com <mailto:konstantinos.vasilakos@gmail.com>>
wrote:
Hi all,
Trying to set up two computers on the same network to sync and change the setcps for both
for example, so I am looking on this https://tidalcycles.org/index.php/Multi-user_Tidal
<https://tidalcycles.org/index.php/Multi-user_Tidal>
I changed the ip address and boot file accordingly to the second computer but when I
reboot tidal it says "Exception: Network.Socket.sendTo: unsupported operation
(Can't assign requested address)"
We haven't yet tried with pdpt as I understood it can also work with the native
network clock, unless I have misunderstood something.
Boot file on second computer looks like this (network set up line is on the beginning):
:set -XOverloadedStrings
:set prompt ""
:set prompt-cont ""
import Sound.Tidal.Context
-- total latency = oLatency + cFrameTimespan
tidal <- startTidal (superdirtTarget {oLatency = 0.1, oAddress =
"127.0.0.1", oPort = 57120}) (defaultConfig {cFrameTimespan = 1/20})
tidal <- startTidal (superdirtTarget {oLatency = 0.02}) (defaultConfig {cFrameTimespan
= 1/20, cTempoAddr = "192.168.43.116"})
let p = streamReplace tidal
let hush = streamHush tidal
let list = streamList tidal
let mute = streamMute tidal
let unmute = streamUnmute tidal
let solo = streamSolo tidal
let unsolo = streamUnsolo tidal
let once = streamOnce tidal False
let asap = streamOnce tidal True
let nudgeAll = streamNudgeAll tidal
let all = streamAll tidal
let resetCycles = streamResetCycles tidal
let setcps = asap . cps
let xfade i = transition tidal (Sound.Tidal.Transition.xfadeIn 4) i
let xfadeIn i t = transition tidal (Sound.Tidal.Transition.xfadeIn t) i
let histpan i t = transition tidal (Sound.Tidal.Transition.histpan t) i
let wait i t = transition tidal (Sound.Tidal.Transition.wait t) i
let waitT i f t = transition tidal (Sound.Tidal.Transition.waitT f t) i
let jump i = transition tidal (Sound.Tidal.Transition.jump) i
let jumpIn i t = transition tidal (Sound.Tidal.Transition.jumpIn t) i
let jumpIn' i t = transition tidal (Sound.Tidal.Transition.jumpIn' t) i
let jumpMod i t = transition tidal (Sound.Tidal.Transition.jumpMod t) i
let mortal i lifespan release = transition tidal (Sound.Tidal.Transition.mortal lifespan
release) i
let interpolate i = transition tidal (Sound.Tidal.Transition.interpolate) i
let interpolateIn i t = transition tidal (Sound.Tidal.Transition.interpolateIn t) i
let clutch i = transition tidal (Sound.Tidal.Transition.clutch) i
let clutchIn i t = transition tidal (Sound.Tidal.Transition.clutchIn t) i
let anticipate i = transition tidal (Sound.Tidal.Transition.anticipate) i
let anticipateIn i t = transition tidal (Sound.Tidal.Transition.anticipateIn t) i
let d1 = p 1
let d2 = p 2
let d3 = p 3
let d4 = p 4
let d5 = p 5
let d6 = p 6
let d7 = p 7
let d8 = p 8
let d9 = p 9
let d10 = p 10
let d11 = p 11
let d12 = p 12
let d13 = p 13
let d14 = p 14
let d15 = p 15
let d16 = p 16
:set prompt "tidal> "
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10:45 a.m.
Hey Alp
I don't run a multi computer setup so not sure if I can be much help but
I'm curious, are you seeing the same exception messages as Konstantinos or
something else?
Cheers
On Thu, 14 Mar 2019 at 11:12, alp tuğan <alptugan(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Hey there,
Is there any duo/group/band performing with multi computers in the
community? We could play with two computers in sync before the TidalCycles
v 1.0.0 update. Now, we get Exception messages whenever we try to run
BootTidal.hs with the following line on the slave computer as stated in the
documentation;
tidal <- startTidal (superdirtTarget {oLatency = 0.02}) (defaultConfig
{cFrameTimespan = 1/20, cTempoAddr = "192.168.0.10"})
*Our setup;*
- 2 identical Macbook 13 inch
- OS is High Sierra
- Both computers have ethernet cable inputs
- Both computers have the latest Haskell release
- Both computers have the latest TidalCycles release
- Both computers have the latest SuperCollider release
*What we can do:*
- Clock Sync via *ptpd* (source: https://github.com/ptpd/ptpd)
Works smoothly on both Master and Slave computers which are connected to a
basic ADSL modem via network cables. Whenever I change the time/date on the
master computer, slave computer syncs to master computer’s time instantly.
So, I can say that no problem with clock sync.
- Local IP of the computers are static. We can ping them and getting
responses.
- We can connect through samba server to both computers and access files
*What we tried to fix the problem;*
- Run the same BootTidal.hs file on different code editors (VS Code and
Atom). But, no luck.
- Disable the static IPs
- Give access to port(9160) on both UDP/TCP of the ADSL modem. No luck.
- Connect two computers with just a network cable without any ADSL modem.
No luck.
- Dig into source code to find any clues about the debug messages. But no
luck.
So, we are just stuck and hope to find a solution till our next
performance :)
Any comments/suggestions would be highly appreciated.
*Alp TUĞAN*
personal: alptugan.com
music: rawlivecoding <http://rawlivecoding.com/>
business: filikatasarim.com <http://www.filikatasarim.com>
On 7 Mar 2019, at 18:12, selcuk artut <selcukartut(a)gmail.com> wrote:
hi all,
same on here. Although I have managed to run the ptpd and clock sync two
mac's, I am getting the same error. No luck with synchronization for two
computers.
Looking forward to deliver any comments
Selcuk ARTUT
selcukartut.com
facebook.com/selcuk.artut
Instagram: selcukartut
music: rawlivecoding.com // replikas.com
arts: zilbermangallery.com
academics: sabanciuniv.academia.edu/SelcukArtut //
researchgate.net/profile/Selcuk_Artut
design : filikatasarim.com
On Tue, Mar 5, 2019 at 1:46 PM Konstantinos Vasilakos <
konstantinos.vasilakos(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Trying to set up two computers on the same network to sync and change the
> setcps for both for example, so I am looking on this
> https://tidalcycles.org/index.php/Multi-user_Tidal
>
> I changed the ip address and boot file accordingly to the second computer
> but when I reboot tidal it says "Exception: Network.Socket.sendTo:
> unsupported operation (Can't assign requested address)"
>
> We haven't yet tried with pdpt as I understood it can also work with the
> native network clock, unless I have misunderstood something.
>
> Boot file on second computer looks like this (network set up line is on
> the beginning):
>
> :set -XOverloadedStrings
> :set prompt ""
> :set prompt-cont ""
>
> import Sound.Tidal.Context
>
> -- total latency = oLatency + cFrameTimespan
> tidal <- startTidal (superdirtTarget {oLatency = 0.1, oAddress =
> "127.0.0.1", oPort = 57120}) (defaultConfig {cFrameTimespan = 1/20})
> tidal <- startTidal (superdirtTarget {oLatency = 0.02}) (defaultConfig
> {cFrameTimespan = 1/20, cTempoAddr = "192.168.43.116"})
>
>
> let p = streamReplace tidal
> let hush = streamHush tidal
> let list = streamList tidal
> let mute = streamMute tidal
> let unmute = streamUnmute tidal
> let solo = streamSolo tidal
> let unsolo = streamUnsolo tidal
> let once = streamOnce tidal False
> let asap = streamOnce tidal True
> let nudgeAll = streamNudgeAll tidal
> let all = streamAll tidal
> let resetCycles = streamResetCycles tidal
> let setcps = asap . cps
> let xfade i = transition tidal (Sound.Tidal.Transition.xfadeIn 4) i
> let xfadeIn i t = transition tidal (Sound.Tidal.Transition.xfadeIn t) i
> let histpan i t = transition tidal (Sound.Tidal.Transition.histpan t) i
> let wait i t = transition tidal (Sound.Tidal.Transition.wait t) i
> let waitT i f t = transition tidal (Sound.Tidal.Transition.waitT f t) i
> let jump i = transition tidal (Sound.Tidal.Transition.jump) i
> let jumpIn i t = transition tidal (Sound.Tidal.Transition.jumpIn t) i
> let jumpIn' i t = transition tidal (Sound.Tidal.Transition.jumpIn' t) i
> let jumpMod i t = transition tidal (Sound.Tidal.Transition.jumpMod t) i
> let mortal i lifespan release = transition tidal
> (Sound.Tidal.Transition.mortal lifespan release) i
> let interpolate i = transition tidal (Sound.Tidal.Transition.interpolate)
> i
> let interpolateIn i t = transition tidal
> (Sound.Tidal.Transition.interpolateIn t) i
> let clutch i = transition tidal (Sound.Tidal.Transition.clutch) i
> let clutchIn i t = transition tidal (Sound.Tidal.Transition.clutchIn t) i
> let anticipate i = transition tidal (Sound.Tidal.Transition.anticipate) i
> let anticipateIn i t = transition tidal
> (Sound.Tidal.Transition.anticipateIn t) i
> let d1 = p 1
> let d2 = p 2
> let d3 = p 3
> let d4 = p 4
> let d5 = p 5
> let d6 = p 6
> let d7 = p 7
> let d8 = p 8
> let d9 = p 9
> let d10 = p 10
> let d11 = p 11
> let d12 = p 12
> let d13 = p 13
> let d14 = p 14
> let d15 = p 15
> let d16 = p 16
>
> :set prompt "tidal> "
>
>
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2:55 p.m.
Hi Matt,
Yes, the exception message is the same one at Konstantinos’s message
Alp TUĞAN
personal: alptugan.com <http://alptugan.com/>
music: rawlivecoding <http://rawlivecoding.com/>
business: filikatasarim.com <http://www.filikatasarim.com/>
On 14 Mar 2019, at 13:45, Matt Spendlove
<matt.spendlove(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Hey Alp
I don't run a multi computer setup so not sure if I can be much help but I'm
curious, are you seeing the same exception messages as Konstantinos or something else?
Cheers
On Thu, 14 Mar 2019 at 11:12, alp tuğan <alptugan(a)gmail.com
<mailto:alptugan@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hey there,
Is there any duo/group/band performing with multi computers in the community? We could
play with two computers in sync before the TidalCycles v 1.0.0 update. Now, we get
Exception messages whenever we try to run BootTidal.hs with the following line on the
slave computer as stated in the documentation;
tidal <- startTidal (superdirtTarget {oLatency = 0.02}) (defaultConfig
{cFrameTimespan = 1/20, cTempoAddr = "192.168.0.10"})
Our setup;
- 2 identical Macbook 13 inch
- OS is High Sierra
- Both computers have ethernet cable inputs
- Both computers have the latest Haskell release
- Both computers have the latest TidalCycles release
- Both computers have the latest SuperCollider release
What we can do:
- Clock Sync via ptpd (source: https://github.com/ptpd/ptpd
<https://github.com/ptpd/ptpd>)
Works smoothly on both Master and Slave computers which are connected to a basic ADSL
modem via network cables. Whenever I change the time/date on the master computer, slave
computer syncs to master computer’s time instantly. So, I can say that no problem with
clock sync.
- Local IP of the computers are static. We can ping them and getting responses.
- We can connect through samba server to both computers and access files
What we tried to fix the problem;
- Run the same BootTidal.hs file on different code editors (VS Code and Atom). But, no
luck.
- Disable the static IPs
- Give access to port(9160) on both UDP/TCP of the ADSL modem. No luck.
- Connect two computers with just a network cable without any ADSL modem. No luck.
- Dig into source code to find any clues about the debug messages. But no luck.
So, we are just stuck and hope to find a solution till our next performance :)
Any comments/suggestions would be highly appreciated.
Alp TUĞAN
personal: alptugan.com <http://alptugan.com/>
music: rawlivecoding <http://rawlivecoding.com/>
business: filikatasarim.com <http://www.filikatasarim.com/>
> On 7 Mar 2019, at 18:12, selcuk artut <selcukartut(a)gmail.com
<mailto:selcukartut@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> hi all,
> same on here. Although I have managed to run the ptpd and clock sync two mac's, I
am getting the same error. No luck with synchronization for two computers.
> Looking forward to deliver any comments
>
> Selcuk ARTUT
>
> selcukartut.com <http://selcukartut.com/>
> facebook.com/selcuk.artut <http://facebook.com/selcuk.artut>
> Instagram: selcukartut
>
> music: rawlivecoding.com <http://rawlivecoding.com/> // replikas.com
<http://replikas.com/>
> arts: zilbermangallery.com <http://zilbermangallery.com/>
> academics: sabanciuniv.academia.edu/SelcukArtut
<http://sabanciuniv.academia.edu/SelcukArtut> //
researchgate.net/profile/Selcuk_Artut
<http://researchgate.net/profile/Selcuk_Artut>
> design : filikatasarim.com <http://filikatasarim.com/>
>
> On Tue, Mar 5, 2019 at 1:46 PM Konstantinos Vasilakos
<konstantinos.vasilakos(a)gmail.com <mailto:konstantinos.vasilakos@gmail.com>>
wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Trying to set up two computers on the same network to sync and change the setcps for
both for example, so I am looking on this
https://tidalcycles.org/index.php/Multi-user_Tidal
<https://tidalcycles.org/index.php/Multi-user_Tidal>
>
> I changed the ip address and boot file accordingly to the second computer but when I
reboot tidal it says "Exception: Network.Socket.sendTo: unsupported operation
(Can't assign requested address)"
>
> We haven't yet tried with pdpt as I understood it can also work with the native
network clock, unless I have misunderstood something.
>
> Boot file on second computer looks like this (network set up line is on the
beginning):
>
> :set -XOverloadedStrings
> :set prompt ""
> :set prompt-cont ""
>
> import Sound.Tidal.Context
>
> -- total latency = oLatency + cFrameTimespan
> tidal <- startTidal (superdirtTarget {oLatency = 0.1, oAddress =
"127.0.0.1", oPort = 57120}) (defaultConfig {cFrameTimespan = 1/20})
> tidal <- startTidal (superdirtTarget {oLatency = 0.02}) (defaultConfig
{cFrameTimespan = 1/20, cTempoAddr = "192.168.43.116"})
>
>
> let p = streamReplace tidal
> let hush = streamHush tidal
> let list = streamList tidal
> let mute = streamMute tidal
> let unmute = streamUnmute tidal
> let solo = streamSolo tidal
> let unsolo = streamUnsolo tidal
> let once = streamOnce tidal False
> let asap = streamOnce tidal True
> let nudgeAll = streamNudgeAll tidal
> let all = streamAll tidal
> let resetCycles = streamResetCycles tidal
> let setcps = asap . cps
> let xfade i = transition tidal (Sound.Tidal.Transition.xfadeIn 4) i
> let xfadeIn i t = transition tidal (Sound.Tidal.Transition.xfadeIn t) i
> let histpan i t = transition tidal (Sound.Tidal.Transition.histpan t) i
> let wait i t = transition tidal (Sound.Tidal.Transition.wait t) i
> let waitT i f t = transition tidal (Sound.Tidal.Transition.waitT f t) i
> let jump i = transition tidal (Sound.Tidal.Transition.jump) i
> let jumpIn i t = transition tidal (Sound.Tidal.Transition.jumpIn t) i
> let jumpIn' i t = transition tidal (Sound.Tidal.Transition.jumpIn' t) i
> let jumpMod i t = transition tidal (Sound.Tidal.Transition.jumpMod t) i
> let mortal i lifespan release = transition tidal (Sound.Tidal.Transition.mortal
lifespan release) i
> let interpolate i = transition tidal (Sound.Tidal.Transition.interpolate) i
> let interpolateIn i t = transition tidal (Sound.Tidal.Transition.interpolateIn t) i
> let clutch i = transition tidal (Sound.Tidal.Transition.clutch) i
> let clutchIn i t = transition tidal (Sound.Tidal.Transition.clutchIn t) i
> let anticipate i = transition tidal (Sound.Tidal.Transition.anticipate) i
> let anticipateIn i t = transition tidal (Sound.Tidal.Transition.anticipateIn t) i
> let d1 = p 1
> let d2 = p 2
> let d3 = p 3
> let d4 = p 4
> let d5 = p 5
> let d6 = p 6
> let d7 = p 7
> let d8 = p 8
> let d9 = p 9
> let d10 = p 10
> let d11 = p 11
> let d12 = p 12
> let d13 = p 13
> let d14 = p 14
> let d15 = p 15
> let d16 = p 16
>
> :set prompt "tidal> "
>
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7:53 p.m.
Hi all,
Konstantinos - you seem to be running startTidal twice, you only need
to run that once. Take out the first instance but make sure the
`oLatency` config value is the same on both computers. (You might
adjust this value later to account for one computer having lower audio
latency than the other)
"Can't assign requested address" seems to be a mac os x bug:
https://askubuntu.com/questions/636409/error-cant-assign-requested-addres...
Alp thanks for the clear details, it looks like you have tried the
troubleshooting I'd suggest. I'll try to reproduce it here, but I
don't have access to macs, only linux.
cheers
On Thu, 14 Mar 2019 at 14:56, alp tuğan <alptugan(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Matt,
Yes, the exception message is the same one at Konstantinos’s message
Alp TUĞAN
personal: alptugan.com
music: rawlivecoding
business: filikatasarim.com
On 14 Mar 2019, at 13:45, Matt Spendlove <matt.spendlove(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Hey Alp
I don't run a multi computer setup so not sure if I can be much help but I'm
curious, are you seeing the same exception messages as Konstantinos or something else?
Cheers
On Thu, 14 Mar 2019 at 11:12, alp tuğan <alptugan(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hey there,
>
> Is there any duo/group/band performing with multi computers in the community? We
could play with two computers in sync before the TidalCycles v 1.0.0 update. Now, we get
Exception messages whenever we try to run BootTidal.hs with the following line on the
slave computer as stated in the documentation;
> tidal <- startTidal (superdirtTarget {oLatency = 0.02}) (defaultConfig
{cFrameTimespan = 1/20, cTempoAddr = "192.168.0.10"})
>
> Our setup;
> - 2 identical Macbook 13 inch
> - OS is High Sierra
> - Both computers have ethernet cable inputs
> - Both computers have the latest Haskell release
> - Both computers have the latest TidalCycles release
> - Both computers have the latest SuperCollider release
>
> What we can do:
> - Clock Sync via ptpd (source: https://github.com/ptpd/ptpd)
> Works smoothly on both Master and Slave computers which are connected to a basic ADSL
modem via network cables. Whenever I change the time/date on the master computer, slave
computer syncs to master computer’s time instantly. So, I can say that no problem with
clock sync.
> - Local IP of the computers are static. We can ping them and getting responses.
> - We can connect through samba server to both computers and access files
>
> What we tried to fix the problem;
> - Run the same BootTidal.hs file on different code editors (VS Code and Atom). But,
no luck.
> - Disable the static IPs
> - Give access to port(9160) on both UDP/TCP of the ADSL modem. No luck.
> - Connect two computers with just a network cable without any ADSL modem. No luck.
> - Dig into source code to find any clues about the debug messages. But no luck.
>
>
> So, we are just stuck and hope to find a solution till our next performance :)
>
>
> Any comments/suggestions would be highly appreciated.
>
>
>
> Alp TUĞAN
> personal: alptugan.com
> music: rawlivecoding
> business: filikatasarim.com
>
>
>
>
>
> On 7 Mar 2019, at 18:12, selcuk artut <selcukartut(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> hi all,
> same on here. Although I have managed to run the ptpd and clock sync two mac's, I
am getting the same error. No luck with synchronization for two computers.
> Looking forward to deliver any comments
>
> Selcuk ARTUT
>
> selcukartut.com
> facebook.com/selcuk.artut
> Instagram: selcukartut
>
> music: rawlivecoding.com // replikas.com
> arts: zilbermangallery.com
> academics: sabanciuniv.academia.edu/SelcukArtut //
researchgate.net/profile/Selcuk_Artut
> design : filikatasarim.com
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 5, 2019 at 1:46 PM Konstantinos Vasilakos
<konstantinos.vasilakos(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Trying to set up two computers on the same network to sync and change the setcps
for both for example, so I am looking on this
https://tidalcycles.org/index.php/Multi-user_Tidal
>>
>> I changed the ip address and boot file accordingly to the second computer but
when I reboot tidal it says "Exception: Network.Socket.sendTo: unsupported operation
(Can't assign requested address)"
>>
>> We haven't yet tried with pdpt as I understood it can also work with the
native network clock, unless I have misunderstood something.
>>
>> Boot file on second computer looks like this (network set up line is on the
beginning):
>>
>> :set -XOverloadedStrings
>> :set prompt ""
>> :set prompt-cont ""
>>
>> import Sound.Tidal.Context
>>
>> -- total latency = oLatency + cFrameTimespan
>> tidal <- startTidal (superdirtTarget {oLatency = 0.1, oAddress =
"127.0.0.1", oPort = 57120}) (defaultConfig {cFrameTimespan = 1/20})
>> tidal <- startTidal (superdirtTarget {oLatency = 0.02}) (defaultConfig
{cFrameTimespan = 1/20, cTempoAddr = "192.168.43.116"})
>>
>>
>> let p = streamReplace tidal
>> let hush = streamHush tidal
>> let list = streamList tidal
>> let mute = streamMute tidal
>> let unmute = streamUnmute tidal
>> let solo = streamSolo tidal
>> let unsolo = streamUnsolo tidal
>> let once = streamOnce tidal False
>> let asap = streamOnce tidal True
>> let nudgeAll = streamNudgeAll tidal
>> let all = streamAll tidal
>> let resetCycles = streamResetCycles tidal
>> let setcps = asap . cps
>> let xfade i = transition tidal (Sound.Tidal.Transition.xfadeIn 4) i
>> let xfadeIn i t = transition tidal (Sound.Tidal.Transition.xfadeIn t) i
>> let histpan i t = transition tidal (Sound.Tidal.Transition.histpan t) i
>> let wait i t = transition tidal (Sound.Tidal.Transition.wait t) i
>> let waitT i f t = transition tidal (Sound.Tidal.Transition.waitT f t) i
>> let jump i = transition tidal (Sound.Tidal.Transition.jump) i
>> let jumpIn i t = transition tidal (Sound.Tidal.Transition.jumpIn t) i
>> let jumpIn' i t = transition tidal (Sound.Tidal.Transition.jumpIn' t) i
>> let jumpMod i t = transition tidal (Sound.Tidal.Transition.jumpMod t) i
>> let mortal i lifespan release = transition tidal (Sound.Tidal.Transition.mortal
lifespan release) i
>> let interpolate i = transition tidal (Sound.Tidal.Transition.interpolate) i
>> let interpolateIn i t = transition tidal (Sound.Tidal.Transition.interpolateIn t)
i
>> let clutch i = transition tidal (Sound.Tidal.Transition.clutch) i
>> let clutchIn i t = transition tidal (Sound.Tidal.Transition.clutchIn t) i
>> let anticipate i = transition tidal (Sound.Tidal.Transition.anticipate) i
>> let anticipateIn i t = transition tidal (Sound.Tidal.Transition.anticipateIn t)
i
>> let d1 = p 1
>> let d2 = p 2
>> let d3 = p 3
>> let d4 = p 4
>> let d5 = p 5
>> let d6 = p 6
>> let d7 = p 7
>> let d8 = p 8
>> let d9 = p 9
>> let d10 = p 10
>> let d11 = p 11
>> let d12 = p 12
>> let d13 = p 13
>> let d14 = p 14
>> let d15 = p 15
>> let d16 = p 16
>>
>> :set prompt "tidal> "
>>
>>
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10:06 a.m.
I tried again with fixing all as noted unclothe bug workaround but no luck. I have two
questions, is this supposed to work without ptpd using native syncing clocks or assumes
ptpd necessary? If yes, must I expect a notification from ptpd in my terminal, for example
is there a msg that would state which one is master and slave as noted in the paper of the
ptpd? The other question is, even if I put the remote IP address in the startTidal of the
slave computer do I need to start atom with Tidal_Tempo_id “remote ip” command or this is
deprecated on Tidal currently?
—
K
> On 14 Mar 2019, at 22:53, Alex McLean <alex(a)slab.org> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> Konstantinos - you seem to be running startTidal twice, you only need
> to run that once. Take out the first instance but make sure the
> `oLatency` config value is the same on both computers. (You might
> adjust this value later to account for one computer having lower audio
> latency than the other)
>
> "Can't assign requested address" seems to be a mac os x bug:
>
https://askubuntu.com/questions/636409/error-cant-assign-requested-addres...
>
> Alp thanks for the clear details, it looks like you have tried the
> troubleshooting I'd suggest. I'll try to reproduce it here, but I
> don't have access to macs, only linux.
>
> cheers
>
>> On Thu, 14 Mar 2019 at 14:56, alp tuğan <alptugan(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Matt,
>> Yes, the exception message is the same one at Konstantinos’s message
>>
>> Alp TUĞAN
>> personal: alptugan.com
>> music: rawlivecoding
>> business: filikatasarim.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 14 Mar 2019, at 13:45, Matt Spendlove <matt.spendlove(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hey Alp
>>
>> I don't run a multi computer setup so not sure if I can be much help but
I'm curious, are you seeing the same exception messages as Konstantinos or something
else?
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>>> On Thu, 14 Mar 2019 at 11:12, alp tuğan <alptugan(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hey there,
>>>
>>> Is there any duo/group/band performing with multi computers in the community?
We could play with two computers in sync before the TidalCycles v 1.0.0 update. Now, we
get Exception messages whenever we try to run BootTidal.hs with the following line on the
slave computer as stated in the documentation;
>>> tidal <- startTidal (superdirtTarget {oLatency = 0.02}) (defaultConfig
{cFrameTimespan = 1/20, cTempoAddr = "192.168.0.10"})
>>>
>>> Our setup;
>>> - 2 identical Macbook 13 inch
>>> - OS is High Sierra
>>> - Both computers have ethernet cable inputs
>>> - Both computers have the latest Haskell release
>>> - Both computers have the latest TidalCycles release
>>> - Both computers have the latest SuperCollider release
>>>
>>> What we can do:
>>> - Clock Sync via ptpd (source: https://github.com/ptpd/ptpd)
>>> Works smoothly on both Master and Slave computers which are connected to a
basic ADSL modem via network cables. Whenever I change the time/date on the master
computer, slave computer syncs to master computer’s time instantly. So, I can say that no
problem with clock sync.
>>> - Local IP of the computers are static. We can ping them and getting
responses.
>>> - We can connect through samba server to both computers and access files
>>>
>>> What we tried to fix the problem;
>>> - Run the same BootTidal.hs file on different code editors (VS Code and
Atom). But, no luck.
>>> - Disable the static IPs
>>> - Give access to port(9160) on both UDP/TCP of the ADSL modem. No luck.
>>> - Connect two computers with just a network cable without any ADSL modem. No
luck.
>>> - Dig into source code to find any clues about the debug messages. But no
luck.
>>>
>>>
>>> So, we are just stuck and hope to find a solution till our next performance
:)
>>>
>>>
>>> Any comments/suggestions would be highly appreciated.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Alp TUĞAN
>>> personal: alptugan.com
>>> music: rawlivecoding
>>> business: filikatasarim.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 7 Mar 2019, at 18:12, selcuk artut <selcukartut(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> hi all,
>>> same on here. Although I have managed to run the ptpd and clock sync two
mac's, I am getting the same error. No luck with synchronization for two computers.
>>> Looking forward to deliver any comments
>>>
>>> Selcuk ARTUT
>>>
>>> selcukartut.com
>>> facebook.com/selcuk.artut
>>> Instagram: selcukartut
>>>
>>> music: rawlivecoding.com // replikas.com
>>> arts: zilbermangallery.com
>>> academics: sabanciuniv.academia.edu/SelcukArtut //
researchgate.net/profile/Selcuk_Artut
>>> design : filikatasarim.com
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Tue, Mar 5, 2019 at 1:46 PM Konstantinos Vasilakos
<konstantinos.vasilakos(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> Trying to set up two computers on the same network to sync and change the
setcps for both for example, so I am looking on this
https://tidalcycles.org/index.php/Multi-user_Tidal
>>>>
>>>> I changed the ip address and boot file accordingly to the second computer
but when I reboot tidal it says "Exception: Network.Socket.sendTo: unsupported
operation (Can't assign requested address)"
>>>>
>>>> We haven't yet tried with pdpt as I understood it can also work with
the native network clock, unless I have misunderstood something.
>>>>
>>>> Boot file on second computer looks like this (network set up line is on
the beginning):
>>>>
>>>> :set -XOverloadedStrings
>>>> :set prompt ""
>>>> :set prompt-cont ""
>>>>
>>>> import Sound.Tidal.Context
>>>>
>>>> -- total latency = oLatency + cFrameTimespan
>>>> tidal <- startTidal (superdirtTarget {oLatency = 0.1, oAddress =
"127.0.0.1", oPort = 57120}) (defaultConfig {cFrameTimespan = 1/20})
>>>> tidal <- startTidal (superdirtTarget {oLatency = 0.02}) (defaultConfig
{cFrameTimespan = 1/20, cTempoAddr = "192.168.43.116"})
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> let p = streamReplace tidal
>>>> let hush = streamHush tidal
>>>> let list = streamList tidal
>>>> let mute = streamMute tidal
>>>> let unmute = streamUnmute tidal
>>>> let solo = streamSolo tidal
>>>> let unsolo = streamUnsolo tidal
>>>> let once = streamOnce tidal False
>>>> let asap = streamOnce tidal True
>>>> let nudgeAll = streamNudgeAll tidal
>>>> let all = streamAll tidal
>>>> let resetCycles = streamResetCycles tidal
>>>> let setcps = asap . cps
>>>> let xfade i = transition tidal (Sound.Tidal.Transition.xfadeIn 4) i
>>>> let xfadeIn i t = transition tidal (Sound.Tidal.Transition.xfadeIn t) i
>>>> let histpan i t = transition tidal (Sound.Tidal.Transition.histpan t) i
>>>> let wait i t = transition tidal (Sound.Tidal.Transition.wait t) i
>>>> let waitT i f t = transition tidal (Sound.Tidal.Transition.waitT f t) i
>>>> let jump i = transition tidal (Sound.Tidal.Transition.jump) i
>>>> let jumpIn i t = transition tidal (Sound.Tidal.Transition.jumpIn t) i
>>>> let jumpIn' i t = transition tidal
(Sound.Tidal.Transition.jumpIn' t) i
>>>> let jumpMod i t = transition tidal (Sound.Tidal.Transition.jumpMod t) i
>>>> let mortal i lifespan release = transition tidal
(Sound.Tidal.Transition.mortal lifespan release) i
>>>> let interpolate i = transition tidal (Sound.Tidal.Transition.interpolate)
i
>>>> let interpolateIn i t = transition tidal
(Sound.Tidal.Transition.interpolateIn t) i
>>>> let clutch i = transition tidal (Sound.Tidal.Transition.clutch) i
>>>> let clutchIn i t = transition tidal (Sound.Tidal.Transition.clutchIn t)
i
>>>> let anticipate i = transition tidal (Sound.Tidal.Transition.anticipate)
i
>>>> let anticipateIn i t = transition tidal
(Sound.Tidal.Transition.anticipateIn t) i
>>>> let d1 = p 1
>>>> let d2 = p 2
>>>> let d3 = p 3
>>>> let d4 = p 4
>>>> let d5 = p 5
>>>> let d6 = p 6
>>>> let d7 = p 7
>>>> let d8 = p 8
>>>> let d9 = p 9
>>>> let d10 = p 10
>>>> let d11 = p 11
>>>> let d12 = p 12
>>>> let d13 = p 13
>>>> let d14 = p 14
>>>> let d15 = p 15
>>>> let d16 = p 16
>>>>
>>>> :set prompt "tidal> "
>>>>
>>>>
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4:44 p.m.
Hi Konstantinos,
Thanks for trying that.
I managed to reproduce and fix the problem in tidal. If you could try this
out I'd appreciate it:
cabal install
https://hackage.haskell.org/package/tidal-1.0.9/candidate/tidal-1.0.9.tar.gz
Under linux I run ptpd like this:
sudo ptpd -m -C -i wlp2s0
-m means 'masterslave', i.e. the master will be nominated automatically
-C means stay in foreground, handy so you can see log messages
-i wlp2s0 is for setting the interface, wlp2s0 is the name of my wifi
network interface in this case. Under linux I find it with the ifconfig
command
Don't bother setting TIDAL_TEMPO_IP, that is indeed ignored now.
Please update the wiki page to improve the instructions if anything there
is unclear,
cheers
alex
On Fri, 15 Mar 2019 at 10:06, <konstantinos.vasilakos(a)gmail.com> wrote:
I tried again with fixing all as noted unclothe bug workaround but
no
luck. I have two questions, is this supposed to work without ptpd using
native syncing clocks or assumes ptpd necessary? If yes, must I expect a
notification from ptpd in my terminal, for example is there a msg that
would state which one is master and slave as noted in the paper of the
ptpd? The other question is, even if I put the remote IP address in the
startTidal of the slave computer do I need to start atom with
Tidal_Tempo_id “remote ip” command or this is deprecated on Tidal currently?
—
K
> On 14 Mar 2019, at 22:53, Alex McLean <alex(a)slab.org> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> Konstantinos - you seem to be running startTidal twice, you only need
> to run that once. Take out the first instance but make sure the
> `oLatency` config value is the same on both computers. (You might
> adjust this value later to account for one computer having lower audio
> latency than the other)
>
> "Can't assign requested address" seems to be a mac os x bug:
>
https://askubuntu.com/questions/636409/error-cant-assign-requested-addres...
>
> Alp thanks for the clear details, it looks like you have tried the
> troubleshooting I'd suggest. I'll try to reproduce it here, but I
> don't have access to macs, only linux.
>
> cheers
>
>> On Thu, 14 Mar 2019 at 14:56, alp tuğan <alptugan(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Matt,
>> Yes, the exception message is the same one at Konstantinos’s message
>>
>> Alp TUĞAN
>> personal: alptugan.com
>> music: rawlivecoding
>> business: filikatasarim.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 14 Mar 2019, at 13:45, Matt Spendlove <matt.spendlove(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
>>
>> Hey Alp
>>
>> I don't run a multi computer setup so not sure if I can be much help
but I'm curious, are you seeing the same exception messages as Konstantinos
or something else?
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>>> On Thu, 14 Mar 2019 at 11:12, alp tuğan <alptugan(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hey there,
>>>
>>> Is there any duo/group/band performing with multi computers in the
community? We could play with two computers in sync before the TidalCycles
v 1.0.0 update. Now, we get Exception messages whenever we try to run
BootTidal.hs with the following line on the slave computer as stated in the
documentation;
>>> tidal <- startTidal (superdirtTarget {oLatency = 0.02})
(defaultConfig {cFrameTimespan = 1/20, cTempoAddr = "192.168.0.10"})
>>>
>>> Our setup;
>>> - 2 identical Macbook 13 inch
>>> - OS is High Sierra
>>> - Both computers have ethernet cable inputs
>>> - Both computers have the latest Haskell release
>>> - Both computers have the latest TidalCycles release
>>> - Both computers have the latest SuperCollider release
>>>
>>> What we can do:
>>> - Clock Sync via ptpd (source: https://github.com/ptpd/ptpd)
>>> Works smoothly on both Master and Slave computers which are connected
to a basic ADSL modem via network cables. Whenever I change the time/date
on the master computer, slave computer syncs to master computer’s time
instantly. So, I can say that no problem with clock sync.
>>> - Local IP of the computers are static. We can ping them and getting
responses.
>>> - We can connect through samba server to both computers and access
files
>>>
>>> What we tried to fix the problem;
>>> - Run the same BootTidal.hs file on different code editors (VS Code
and Atom). But, no luck.
>>> - Disable the static IPs
>>> - Give access to port(9160) on both UDP/TCP of the ADSL modem. No luck.
>>> - Connect two computers with just a network cable without any ADSL
modem. No luck.
>>> - Dig into source code to find any clues about the debug messages. But
no luck.
>>>
>>>
>>> So, we are just stuck and hope to find a solution till our next
performance :)
>>>
>>>
>>> Any comments/suggestions would be highly appreciated.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Alp TUĞAN
>>> personal: alptugan.com
>>> music: rawlivecoding
>>> business: filikatasarim.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 7 Mar 2019, at 18:12, selcuk artut <selcukartut(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> hi all,
>>> same on here. Although I have managed to run the ptpd and clock sync
two mac's, I am getting the same error. No luck with synchronization for
two computers.
>>> Looking forward to deliver any comments
>>>
>>> Selcuk ARTUT
>>>
>>> selcukartut.com
>>> facebook.com/selcuk.artut
>>> Instagram: selcukartut
>>>
>>> music: rawlivecoding.com // replikas.com
>>> arts: zilbermangallery.com
>>> academics: sabanciuniv.academia.edu/SelcukArtut //
researchgate.net/profile/Selcuk_Artut
>>> design : filikatasarim.com
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Tue, Mar 5, 2019 at 1:46 PM Konstantinos Vasilakos <
konstantinos.vasilakos(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> Trying to set up two computers on the same network to sync and change
the setcps for both for example, so I am looking on this
https://tidalcycles.org/index.php/Multi-user_Tidal
>>>>
>>>> I changed the ip address and boot file accordingly to the second
computer but when I reboot tidal it says "Exception: Network.Socket.sendTo:
unsupported operation (Can't assign requested address)"
>>>>
>>>> We haven't yet tried with pdpt as I understood it can also work
with
the native network clock, unless I have misunderstood something.
>>>>
>>>> Boot file on second computer looks like this (network set up line is
on the beginning):
>>>>
>>>> :set -XOverloadedStrings
>>>> :set prompt ""
>>>> :set prompt-cont ""
>>>>
>>>> import Sound.Tidal.Context
>>>>
>>>> -- total latency = oLatency + cFrameTimespan
>>>> tidal <- startTidal (superdirtTarget {oLatency = 0.1, oAddress =
"127.0.0.1", oPort = 57120}) (defaultConfig {cFrameTimespan = 1/20})
>>>> tidal <- startTidal (superdirtTarget {oLatency = 0.02})
(defaultConfig {cFrameTimespan = 1/20, cTempoAddr = "192.168.43.116"})
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> let p = streamReplace tidal
>>>> let hush = streamHush tidal
>>>> let list = streamList tidal
>>>> let mute = streamMute tidal
>>>> let unmute = streamUnmute tidal
>>>> let solo = streamSolo tidal
>>>> let unsolo = streamUnsolo tidal
>>>> let once = streamOnce tidal False
>>>> let asap = streamOnce tidal True
>>>> let nudgeAll = streamNudgeAll tidal
>>>> let all = streamAll tidal
>>>> let resetCycles = streamResetCycles tidal
>>>> let setcps = asap . cps
>>>> let xfade i = transition tidal (Sound.Tidal.Transition.xfadeIn 4) i
>>>> let xfadeIn i t = transition tidal (Sound.Tidal.Transition.xfadeIn t)
i
>>>> let histpan i t = transition tidal (Sound.Tidal.Transition.histpan t)
i
>>>> let wait i t = transition tidal (Sound.Tidal.Transition.wait t) i
>>>> let waitT i f t = transition tidal (Sound.Tidal.Transition.waitT f t)
i
>>>> let jump i = transition tidal (Sound.Tidal.Transition.jump) i
>>>> let jumpIn i t = transition tidal (Sound.Tidal.Transition.jumpIn t) i
>>>> let jumpIn' i t = transition tidal
(Sound.Tidal.Transition.jumpIn' t)
i
>>>> let jumpMod i t = transition tidal (Sound.Tidal.Transition.jumpMod t)
i
>>>> let mortal i lifespan release = transition tidal
(Sound.Tidal.Transition.mortal lifespan release) i
>>>> let interpolate i = transition tidal
(Sound.Tidal.Transition.interpolate) i
>>>> let interpolateIn i t = transition tidal
(Sound.Tidal.Transition.interpolateIn t) i
>>>> let clutch i = transition tidal (Sound.Tidal.Transition.clutch) i
>>>> let clutchIn i t = transition tidal (Sound.Tidal.Transition.clutchIn
t) i
>>>> let anticipate i = transition tidal
(Sound.Tidal.Transition.anticipate) i
>>>> let anticipateIn i t = transition tidal
(Sound.Tidal.Transition.anticipateIn t) i
>>>> let d1 = p 1
>>>> let d2 = p 2
>>>> let d3 = p 3
>>>> let d4 = p 4
>>>> let d5 = p 5
>>>> let d6 = p 6
>>>> let d7 = p 7
>>>> let d8 = p 8
>>>> let d9 = p 9
>>>> let d10 = p 10
>>>> let d11 = p 11
>>>> let d12 = p 12
>>>> let d13 = p 13
>>>> let d14 = p 14
>>>> let d15 = p 15
>>>> let d16 = p 16
>>>>
>>>> :set prompt "tidal> "
>>>>
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9 p.m.
Any successes with this?
On Fri, 15 Mar 2019 at 16:44, Alex McLean <alex(a)slab.org> wrote:
Hi Konstantinos,
Thanks for trying that.
I managed to reproduce and fix the problem in tidal. If you could try this out I'd
appreciate it:
cabal install
https://hackage.haskell.org/package/tidal-1.0.9/candidate/tidal-1.0.9.tar.gz
Under linux I run ptpd like this:
sudo ptpd -m -C -i wlp2s0
-m means 'masterslave', i.e. the master will be nominated automatically
-C means stay in foreground, handy so you can see log messages
-i wlp2s0 is for setting the interface, wlp2s0 is the name of my wifi network interface
in this case. Under linux I find it with the ifconfig command
Don't bother setting TIDAL_TEMPO_IP, that is indeed ignored now.
Please update the wiki page to improve the instructions if anything there is unclear,
cheers
alex
On Fri, 15 Mar 2019 at 10:06, <konstantinos.vasilakos(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I tried again with fixing all as noted unclothe bug workaround but no luck. I have
two questions, is this supposed to work without ptpd using native syncing clocks or
assumes ptpd necessary? If yes, must I expect a notification from ptpd in my terminal, for
example is there a msg that would state which one is master and slave as noted in the
paper of the ptpd? The other question is, even if I put the remote IP address in the
startTidal of the slave computer do I need to start atom with Tidal_Tempo_id “remote ip”
command or this is deprecated on Tidal currently?
>
>
>
> —
> K
>
> > On 14 Mar 2019, at 22:53, Alex McLean <alex(a)slab.org> wrote:
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > Konstantinos - you seem to be running startTidal twice, you only need
> > to run that once. Take out the first instance but make sure the
> > `oLatency` config value is the same on both computers. (You might
> > adjust this value later to account for one computer having lower audio
> > latency than the other)
> >
> > "Can't assign requested address" seems to be a mac os x bug:
> >
https://askubuntu.com/questions/636409/error-cant-assign-requested-addres...
> >
> > Alp thanks for the clear details, it looks like you have tried the
> > troubleshooting I'd suggest. I'll try to reproduce it here, but I
> > don't have access to macs, only linux.
> >
> > cheers
> >
> >> On Thu, 14 Mar 2019 at 14:56, alp tuğan <alptugan(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi Matt,
> >> Yes, the exception message is the same one at Konstantinos’s message
> >>
> >> Alp TUĞAN
> >> personal: alptugan.com
> >> music: rawlivecoding
> >> business: filikatasarim.com
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On 14 Mar 2019, at 13:45, Matt Spendlove <matt.spendlove(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
> >>
> >> Hey Alp
> >>
> >> I don't run a multi computer setup so not sure if I can be much help but
I'm curious, are you seeing the same exception messages as Konstantinos or something
else?
> >>
> >> Cheers
> >>
> >>> On Thu, 14 Mar 2019 at 11:12, alp tuğan <alptugan(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Hey there,
> >>>
> >>> Is there any duo/group/band performing with multi computers in the
community? We could play with two computers in sync before the TidalCycles v 1.0.0 update.
Now, we get Exception messages whenever we try to run BootTidal.hs with the following line
on the slave computer as stated in the documentation;
> >>> tidal <- startTidal (superdirtTarget {oLatency = 0.02})
(defaultConfig {cFrameTimespan = 1/20, cTempoAddr = "192.168.0.10"})
> >>>
> >>> Our setup;
> >>> - 2 identical Macbook 13 inch
> >>> - OS is High Sierra
> >>> - Both computers have ethernet cable inputs
> >>> - Both computers have the latest Haskell release
> >>> - Both computers have the latest TidalCycles release
> >>> - Both computers have the latest SuperCollider release
> >>>
> >>> What we can do:
> >>> - Clock Sync via ptpd (source: https://github.com/ptpd/ptpd)
> >>> Works smoothly on both Master and Slave computers which are connected to
a basic ADSL modem via network cables. Whenever I change the time/date on the master
computer, slave computer syncs to master computer’s time instantly. So, I can say that no
problem with clock sync.
> >>> - Local IP of the computers are static. We can ping them and getting
responses.
> >>> - We can connect through samba server to both computers and access
files
> >>>
> >>> What we tried to fix the problem;
> >>> - Run the same BootTidal.hs file on different code editors (VS Code and
Atom). But, no luck.
> >>> - Disable the static IPs
> >>> - Give access to port(9160) on both UDP/TCP of the ADSL modem. No luck.
> >>> - Connect two computers with just a network cable without any ADSL
modem. No luck.
> >>> - Dig into source code to find any clues about the debug messages. But
no luck.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> So, we are just stuck and hope to find a solution till our next
performance :)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Any comments/suggestions would be highly appreciated.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Alp TUĞAN
> >>> personal: alptugan.com
> >>> music: rawlivecoding
> >>> business: filikatasarim.com
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On 7 Mar 2019, at 18:12, selcuk artut <selcukartut(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
> >>>
> >>> hi all,
> >>> same on here. Although I have managed to run the ptpd and clock sync two
mac's, I am getting the same error. No luck with synchronization for two computers.
> >>> Looking forward to deliver any comments
> >>>
> >>> Selcuk ARTUT
> >>>
> >>> selcukartut.com
> >>> facebook.com/selcuk.artut
> >>> Instagram: selcukartut
> >>>
> >>> music: rawlivecoding.com // replikas.com
> >>> arts: zilbermangallery.com
> >>> academics: sabanciuniv.academia.edu/SelcukArtut //
researchgate.net/profile/Selcuk_Artut
> >>> design : filikatasarim.com
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> On Tue, Mar 5, 2019 at 1:46 PM Konstantinos Vasilakos
<konstantinos.vasilakos(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Hi all,
> >>>>
> >>>> Trying to set up two computers on the same network to sync and
change the setcps for both for example, so I am looking on this
https://tidalcycles.org/index.php/Multi-user_Tidal
> >>>>
> >>>> I changed the ip address and boot file accordingly to the second
computer but when I reboot tidal it says "Exception: Network.Socket.sendTo:
unsupported operation (Can't assign requested address)"
> >>>>
> >>>> We haven't yet tried with pdpt as I understood it can also work
with the native network clock, unless I have misunderstood something.
> >>>>
> >>>> Boot file on second computer looks like this (network set up line is
on the beginning):
> >>>>
> >>>> :set -XOverloadedStrings
> >>>> :set prompt ""
> >>>> :set prompt-cont ""
> >>>>
> >>>> import Sound.Tidal.Context
> >>>>
> >>>> -- total latency = oLatency + cFrameTimespan
> >>>> tidal <- startTidal (superdirtTarget {oLatency = 0.1, oAddress =
"127.0.0.1", oPort = 57120}) (defaultConfig {cFrameTimespan = 1/20})
> >>>> tidal <- startTidal (superdirtTarget {oLatency = 0.02})
(defaultConfig {cFrameTimespan = 1/20, cTempoAddr = "192.168.43.116"})
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> let p = streamReplace tidal
> >>>> let hush = streamHush tidal
> >>>> let list = streamList tidal
> >>>> let mute = streamMute tidal
> >>>> let unmute = streamUnmute tidal
> >>>> let solo = streamSolo tidal
> >>>> let unsolo = streamUnsolo tidal
> >>>> let once = streamOnce tidal False
> >>>> let asap = streamOnce tidal True
> >>>> let nudgeAll = streamNudgeAll tidal
> >>>> let all = streamAll tidal
> >>>> let resetCycles = streamResetCycles tidal
> >>>> let setcps = asap . cps
> >>>> let xfade i = transition tidal (Sound.Tidal.Transition.xfadeIn 4) i
> >>>> let xfadeIn i t = transition tidal (Sound.Tidal.Transition.xfadeIn
t) i
> >>>> let histpan i t = transition tidal (Sound.Tidal.Transition.histpan
t) i
> >>>> let wait i t = transition tidal (Sound.Tidal.Transition.wait t) i
> >>>> let waitT i f t = transition tidal (Sound.Tidal.Transition.waitT f
t) i
> >>>> let jump i = transition tidal (Sound.Tidal.Transition.jump) i
> >>>> let jumpIn i t = transition tidal (Sound.Tidal.Transition.jumpIn t)
i
> >>>> let jumpIn' i t = transition tidal
(Sound.Tidal.Transition.jumpIn' t) i
> >>>> let jumpMod i t = transition tidal (Sound.Tidal.Transition.jumpMod
t) i
> >>>> let mortal i lifespan release = transition tidal
(Sound.Tidal.Transition.mortal lifespan release) i
> >>>> let interpolate i = transition tidal
(Sound.Tidal.Transition.interpolate) i
> >>>> let interpolateIn i t = transition tidal
(Sound.Tidal.Transition.interpolateIn t) i
> >>>> let clutch i = transition tidal (Sound.Tidal.Transition.clutch) i
> >>>> let clutchIn i t = transition tidal (Sound.Tidal.Transition.clutchIn
t) i
> >>>> let anticipate i = transition tidal
(Sound.Tidal.Transition.anticipate) i
> >>>> let anticipateIn i t = transition tidal
(Sound.Tidal.Transition.anticipateIn t) i
> >>>> let d1 = p 1
> >>>> let d2 = p 2
> >>>> let d3 = p 3
> >>>> let d4 = p 4
> >>>> let d5 = p 5
> >>>> let d6 = p 6
> >>>> let d7 = p 7
> >>>> let d8 = p 8
> >>>> let d9 = p 9
> >>>> let d10 = p 10
> >>>> let d11 = p 11
> >>>> let d12 = p 12
> >>>> let d13 = p 13
> >>>> let d14 = p 14
> >>>> let d15 = p 15
> >>>> let d16 = p 16
> >>>>
> >>>> :set prompt "tidal> "
> >>>>
> >>>>
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8:59 a.m.
I can confirm it works. I can now change the tempo using setcps using two computers
connected via Ethernet and running ptpd.
I am not sure however why I can only change it from one which was assigned to get master
clock from the other that is strange but I will investigate further.
Some questions about the latency issue I can calibrate it using # nudge but does this mean
that it has to be recalibrated within every connection running? Seems like this atm.
Thanks for helping to fix this.
—
K
> On 16 Mar 2019, at 00:00, Alex McLean <alex(a)slab.org> wrote:
>
> Any successes with this?
>
>> On Fri, 15 Mar 2019 at 16:44, Alex McLean <alex(a)slab.org> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Konstantinos,
>>
>> Thanks for trying that.
>>
>> I managed to reproduce and fix the problem in tidal. If you could try this out
I'd appreciate it:
>> cabal install
https://hackage.haskell.org/package/tidal-1.0.9/candidate/tidal-1.0.9.tar.gz
>>
>> Under linux I run ptpd like this:
>>
>> sudo ptpd -m -C -i wlp2s0
>>
>> -m means 'masterslave', i.e. the master will be nominated automatically
>> -C means stay in foreground, handy so you can see log messages
>> -i wlp2s0 is for setting the interface, wlp2s0 is the name of my wifi network
interface in this case. Under linux I find it with the ifconfig command
>>
>> Don't bother setting TIDAL_TEMPO_IP, that is indeed ignored now.
>>
>> Please update the wiki page to improve the instructions if anything there is
unclear,
>>
>> cheers
>> alex
>>
>>> On Fri, 15 Mar 2019 at 10:06, <konstantinos.vasilakos(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
>>>
>>> I tried again with fixing all as noted unclothe bug workaround but no luck. I
have two questions, is this supposed to work without ptpd using native syncing clocks or
assumes ptpd necessary? If yes, must I expect a notification from ptpd in my terminal, for
example is there a msg that would state which one is master and slave as noted in the
paper of the ptpd? The other question is, even if I put the remote IP address in the
startTidal of the slave computer do I need to start atom with Tidal_Tempo_id “remote ip”
command or this is deprecated on Tidal currently?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> —
>>> K
>>>
>>>> On 14 Mar 2019, at 22:53, Alex McLean <alex(a)slab.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> Konstantinos - you seem to be running startTidal twice, you only need
>>>> to run that once. Take out the first instance but make sure the
>>>> `oLatency` config value is the same on both computers. (You might
>>>> adjust this value later to account for one computer having lower audio
>>>> latency than the other)
>>>>
>>>> "Can't assign requested address" seems to be a mac os x
bug:
>>>>
https://askubuntu.com/questions/636409/error-cant-assign-requested-addres...
>>>>
>>>> Alp thanks for the clear details, it looks like you have tried the
>>>> troubleshooting I'd suggest. I'll try to reproduce it here, but
I
>>>> don't have access to macs, only linux.
>>>>
>>>> cheers
>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, 14 Mar 2019 at 14:56, alp tuğan <alptugan(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Matt,
>>>>> Yes, the exception message is the same one at Konstantinos’s message
>>>>>
>>>>> Alp TUĞAN
>>>>> personal: alptugan.com
>>>>> music: rawlivecoding
>>>>> business: filikatasarim.com
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 14 Mar 2019, at 13:45, Matt Spendlove
<matt.spendlove(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hey Alp
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't run a multi computer setup so not sure if I can be much
help but I'm curious, are you seeing the same exception messages as Konstantinos or
something else?
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, 14 Mar 2019 at 11:12, alp tuğan
<alptugan(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hey there,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Is there any duo/group/band performing with multi computers in
the community? We could play with two computers in sync before the TidalCycles v 1.0.0
update. Now, we get Exception messages whenever we try to run BootTidal.hs with the
following line on the slave computer as stated in the documentation;
>>>>>> tidal <- startTidal (superdirtTarget {oLatency = 0.02})
(defaultConfig {cFrameTimespan = 1/20, cTempoAddr = "192.168.0.10"})
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Our setup;
>>>>>> - 2 identical Macbook 13 inch
>>>>>> - OS is High Sierra
>>>>>> - Both computers have ethernet cable inputs
>>>>>> - Both computers have the latest Haskell release
>>>>>> - Both computers have the latest TidalCycles release
>>>>>> - Both computers have the latest SuperCollider release
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What we can do:
>>>>>> - Clock Sync via ptpd (source: https://github.com/ptpd/ptpd)
>>>>>> Works smoothly on both Master and Slave computers which are
connected to a basic ADSL modem via network cables. Whenever I change the time/date on the
master computer, slave computer syncs to master computer’s time instantly. So, I can say
that no problem with clock sync.
>>>>>> - Local IP of the computers are static. We can ping them and
getting responses.
>>>>>> - We can connect through samba server to both computers and
access files
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What we tried to fix the problem;
>>>>>> - Run the same BootTidal.hs file on different code editors (VS
Code and Atom). But, no luck.
>>>>>> - Disable the static IPs
>>>>>> - Give access to port(9160) on both UDP/TCP of the ADSL modem. No
luck.
>>>>>> - Connect two computers with just a network cable without any
ADSL modem. No luck.
>>>>>> - Dig into source code to find any clues about the debug
messages. But no luck.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So, we are just stuck and hope to find a solution till our next
performance :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Any comments/suggestions would be highly appreciated.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Alp TUĞAN
>>>>>> personal: alptugan.com
>>>>>> music: rawlivecoding
>>>>>> business: filikatasarim.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 7 Mar 2019, at 18:12, selcuk artut
<selcukartut(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> hi all,
>>>>>> same on here. Although I have managed to run the ptpd and clock
sync two mac's, I am getting the same error. No luck with synchronization for two
computers.
>>>>>> Looking forward to deliver any comments
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Selcuk ARTUT
>>>>>>
>>>>>> selcukartut.com
>>>>>> facebook.com/selcuk.artut
>>>>>> Instagram: selcukartut
>>>>>>
>>>>>> music: rawlivecoding.com // replikas.com
>>>>>> arts: zilbermangallery.com
>>>>>> academics: sabanciuniv.academia.edu/SelcukArtut //
researchgate.net/profile/Selcuk_Artut
>>>>>> design : filikatasarim.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 5, 2019 at 1:46 PM Konstantinos Vasilakos
<konstantinos.vasilakos(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Trying to set up two computers on the same network to sync
and change the setcps for both for example, so I am looking on this
https://tidalcycles.org/index.php/Multi-user_Tidal
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I changed the ip address and boot file accordingly to the
second computer but when I reboot tidal it says "Exception: Network.Socket.sendTo:
unsupported operation (Can't assign requested address)"
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We haven't yet tried with pdpt as I understood it can
also work with the native network clock, unless I have misunderstood something.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Boot file on second computer looks like this (network set up
line is on the beginning):
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> :set -XOverloadedStrings
>>>>>>> :set prompt ""
>>>>>>> :set prompt-cont ""
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> import Sound.Tidal.Context
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -- total latency = oLatency + cFrameTimespan
>>>>>>> tidal <- startTidal (superdirtTarget {oLatency = 0.1,
oAddress = "127.0.0.1", oPort = 57120}) (defaultConfig {cFrameTimespan = 1/20})
>>>>>>> tidal <- startTidal (superdirtTarget {oLatency = 0.02})
(defaultConfig {cFrameTimespan = 1/20, cTempoAddr = "192.168.43.116"})
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> let p = streamReplace tidal
>>>>>>> let hush = streamHush tidal
>>>>>>> let list = streamList tidal
>>>>>>> let mute = streamMute tidal
>>>>>>> let unmute = streamUnmute tidal
>>>>>>> let solo = streamSolo tidal
>>>>>>> let unsolo = streamUnsolo tidal
>>>>>>> let once = streamOnce tidal False
>>>>>>> let asap = streamOnce tidal True
>>>>>>> let nudgeAll = streamNudgeAll tidal
>>>>>>> let all = streamAll tidal
>>>>>>> let resetCycles = streamResetCycles tidal
>>>>>>> let setcps = asap . cps
>>>>>>> let xfade i = transition tidal
(Sound.Tidal.Transition.xfadeIn 4) i
>>>>>>> let xfadeIn i t = transition tidal
(Sound.Tidal.Transition.xfadeIn t) i
>>>>>>> let histpan i t = transition tidal
(Sound.Tidal.Transition.histpan t) i
>>>>>>> let wait i t = transition tidal (Sound.Tidal.Transition.wait
t) i
>>>>>>> let waitT i f t = transition tidal
(Sound.Tidal.Transition.waitT f t) i
>>>>>>> let jump i = transition tidal (Sound.Tidal.Transition.jump)
i
>>>>>>> let jumpIn i t = transition tidal
(Sound.Tidal.Transition.jumpIn t) i
>>>>>>> let jumpIn' i t = transition tidal
(Sound.Tidal.Transition.jumpIn' t) i
>>>>>>> let jumpMod i t = transition tidal
(Sound.Tidal.Transition.jumpMod t) i
>>>>>>> let mortal i lifespan release = transition tidal
(Sound.Tidal.Transition.mortal lifespan release) i
>>>>>>> let interpolate i = transition tidal
(Sound.Tidal.Transition.interpolate) i
>>>>>>> let interpolateIn i t = transition tidal
(Sound.Tidal.Transition.interpolateIn t) i
>>>>>>> let clutch i = transition tidal
(Sound.Tidal.Transition.clutch) i
>>>>>>> let clutchIn i t = transition tidal
(Sound.Tidal.Transition.clutchIn t) i
>>>>>>> let anticipate i = transition tidal
(Sound.Tidal.Transition.anticipate) i
>>>>>>> let anticipateIn i t = transition tidal
(Sound.Tidal.Transition.anticipateIn t) i
>>>>>>> let d1 = p 1
>>>>>>> let d2 = p 2
>>>>>>> let d3 = p 3
>>>>>>> let d4 = p 4
>>>>>>> let d5 = p 5
>>>>>>> let d6 = p 6
>>>>>>> let d7 = p 7
>>>>>>> let d8 = p 8
>>>>>>> let d9 = p 9
>>>>>>> let d10 = p 10
>>>>>>> let d11 = p 11
>>>>>>> let d12 = p 12
>>>>>>> let d13 = p 13
>>>>>>> let d14 = p 14
>>>>>>> let d15 = p 15
>>>>>>> let d16 = p 16
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> :set prompt "tidal> "
>>>>>>>
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9:48 a.m.
Thanks, I'll release 1.0.9 with that fix in now.
You can also use the standalone function `nudgeAll` to nudge all the
local patterns
If you can make an issue for the problem with cps that'd be great
https://github.com/tidalcycles/tidal/issues
cheers
On Sat, 16 Mar 2019 at 08:59, <konstantinos.vasilakos(a)gmail.com> wrote:
I can confirm it works. I can now change the tempo using setcps using two computers
connected via Ethernet and running ptpd.
I am not sure however why I can only change it from one which was assigned to get master
clock from the other that is strange but I will investigate further.
Some questions about the latency issue I can calibrate it using # nudge but does this
mean that it has to be recalibrated within every connection running? Seems like this atm.
Thanks for helping to fix this.
—
K
> On 16 Mar 2019, at 00:00, Alex McLean <alex(a)slab.org> wrote:
>
> Any successes with this?
>
>> On Fri, 15 Mar 2019 at 16:44, Alex McLean <alex(a)slab.org> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Konstantinos,
>>
>> Thanks for trying that.
>>
>> I managed to reproduce and fix the problem in tidal. If you could try this out
I'd appreciate it:
>> cabal install
https://hackage.haskell.org/package/tidal-1.0.9/candidate/tidal-1.0.9.tar.gz
>>
>> Under linux I run ptpd like this:
>>
>> sudo ptpd -m -C -i wlp2s0
>>
>> -m means 'masterslave', i.e. the master will be nominated automatically
>> -C means stay in foreground, handy so you can see log messages
>> -i wlp2s0 is for setting the interface, wlp2s0 is the name of my wifi network
interface in this case. Under linux I find it with the ifconfig command
>>
>> Don't bother setting TIDAL_TEMPO_IP, that is indeed ignored now.
>>
>> Please update the wiki page to improve the instructions if anything there is
unclear,
>>
>> cheers
>> alex
>>
>>> On Fri, 15 Mar 2019 at 10:06, <konstantinos.vasilakos(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
>>>
>>> I tried again with fixing all as noted unclothe bug workaround but no luck.
I have two questions, is this supposed to work without ptpd using native syncing clocks or
assumes ptpd necessary? If yes, must I expect a notification from ptpd in my terminal, for
example is there a msg that would state which one is master and slave as noted in the
paper of the ptpd? The other question is, even if I put the remote IP address in the
startTidal of the slave computer do I need to start atom with Tidal_Tempo_id “remote ip”
command or this is deprecated on Tidal currently?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> —
>>> K
>>>
>>>> On 14 Mar 2019, at 22:53, Alex McLean <alex(a)slab.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> Konstantinos - you seem to be running startTidal twice, you only need
>>>> to run that once. Take out the first instance but make sure the
>>>> `oLatency` config value is the same on both computers. (You might
>>>> adjust this value later to account for one computer having lower audio
>>>> latency than the other)
>>>>
>>>> "Can't assign requested address" seems to be a mac os x
bug:
>>>>
https://askubuntu.com/questions/636409/error-cant-assign-requested-addres...
>>>>
>>>> Alp thanks for the clear details, it looks like you have tried the
>>>> troubleshooting I'd suggest. I'll try to reproduce it here, but
I
>>>> don't have access to macs, only linux.
>>>>
>>>> cheers
>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, 14 Mar 2019 at 14:56, alp tuğan <alptugan(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Matt,
>>>>> Yes, the exception message is the same one at Konstantinos’s
message
>>>>>
>>>>> Alp TUĞAN
>>>>> personal: alptugan.com
>>>>> music: rawlivecoding
>>>>> business: filikatasarim.com
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 14 Mar 2019, at 13:45, Matt Spendlove
<matt.spendlove(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hey Alp
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't run a multi computer setup so not sure if I can be much
help but I'm curious, are you seeing the same exception messages as Konstantinos or
something else?
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, 14 Mar 2019 at 11:12, alp tuğan
<alptugan(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hey there,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Is there any duo/group/band performing with multi computers in
the community? We could play with two computers in sync before the TidalCycles v 1.0.0
update. Now, we get Exception messages whenever we try to run BootTidal.hs with the
following line on the slave computer as stated in the documentation;
>>>>>> tidal <- startTidal (superdirtTarget {oLatency = 0.02})
(defaultConfig {cFrameTimespan = 1/20, cTempoAddr = "192.168.0.10"})
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Our setup;
>>>>>> - 2 identical Macbook 13 inch
>>>>>> - OS is High Sierra
>>>>>> - Both computers have ethernet cable inputs
>>>>>> - Both computers have the latest Haskell release
>>>>>> - Both computers have the latest TidalCycles release
>>>>>> - Both computers have the latest SuperCollider release
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What we can do:
>>>>>> - Clock Sync via ptpd (source: https://github.com/ptpd/ptpd)
>>>>>> Works smoothly on both Master and Slave computers which are
connected to a basic ADSL modem via network cables. Whenever I change the time/date on the
master computer, slave computer syncs to master computer’s time instantly. So, I can say
that no problem with clock sync.
>>>>>> - Local IP of the computers are static. We can ping them and
getting responses.
>>>>>> - We can connect through samba server to both computers and
access files
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What we tried to fix the problem;
>>>>>> - Run the same BootTidal.hs file on different code editors (VS
Code and Atom). But, no luck.
>>>>>> - Disable the static IPs
>>>>>> - Give access to port(9160) on both UDP/TCP of the ADSL modem.
No luck.
>>>>>> - Connect two computers with just a network cable without any
ADSL modem. No luck.
>>>>>> - Dig into source code to find any clues about the debug
messages. But no luck.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So, we are just stuck and hope to find a solution till our next
performance :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Any comments/suggestions would be highly appreciated.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Alp TUĞAN
>>>>>> personal: alptugan.com
>>>>>> music: rawlivecoding
>>>>>> business: filikatasarim.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 7 Mar 2019, at 18:12, selcuk artut
<selcukartut(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> hi all,
>>>>>> same on here. Although I have managed to run the ptpd and clock
sync two mac's, I am getting the same error. No luck with synchronization for two
computers.
>>>>>> Looking forward to deliver any comments
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Selcuk ARTUT
>>>>>>
>>>>>> selcukartut.com
>>>>>> facebook.com/selcuk.artut
>>>>>> Instagram: selcukartut
>>>>>>
>>>>>> music: rawlivecoding.com // replikas.com
>>>>>> arts: zilbermangallery.com
>>>>>> academics: sabanciuniv.academia.edu/SelcukArtut //
researchgate.net/profile/Selcuk_Artut
>>>>>> design : filikatasarim.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 5, 2019 at 1:46 PM Konstantinos Vasilakos
<konstantinos.vasilakos(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Trying to set up two computers on the same network to sync
and change the setcps for both for example, so I am looking on this
https://tidalcycles.org/index.php/Multi-user_Tidal
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I changed the ip address and boot file accordingly to the
second computer but when I reboot tidal it says "Exception: Network.Socket.sendTo:
unsupported operation (Can't assign requested address)"
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We haven't yet tried with pdpt as I understood it can
also work with the native network clock, unless I have misunderstood something.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Boot file on second computer looks like this (network set up
line is on the beginning):
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> :set -XOverloadedStrings
>>>>>>> :set prompt ""
>>>>>>> :set prompt-cont ""
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> import Sound.Tidal.Context
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -- total latency = oLatency + cFrameTimespan
>>>>>>> tidal <- startTidal (superdirtTarget {oLatency = 0.1,
oAddress = "127.0.0.1", oPort = 57120}) (defaultConfig {cFrameTimespan = 1/20})
>>>>>>> tidal <- startTidal (superdirtTarget {oLatency = 0.02})
(defaultConfig {cFrameTimespan = 1/20, cTempoAddr = "192.168.43.116"})
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> let p = streamReplace tidal
>>>>>>> let hush = streamHush tidal
>>>>>>> let list = streamList tidal
>>>>>>> let mute = streamMute tidal
>>>>>>> let unmute = streamUnmute tidal
>>>>>>> let solo = streamSolo tidal
>>>>>>> let unsolo = streamUnsolo tidal
>>>>>>> let once = streamOnce tidal False
>>>>>>> let asap = streamOnce tidal True
>>>>>>> let nudgeAll = streamNudgeAll tidal
>>>>>>> let all = streamAll tidal
>>>>>>> let resetCycles = streamResetCycles tidal
>>>>>>> let setcps = asap . cps
>>>>>>> let xfade i = transition tidal
(Sound.Tidal.Transition.xfadeIn 4) i
>>>>>>> let xfadeIn i t = transition tidal
(Sound.Tidal.Transition.xfadeIn t) i
>>>>>>> let histpan i t = transition tidal
(Sound.Tidal.Transition.histpan t) i
>>>>>>> let wait i t = transition tidal (Sound.Tidal.Transition.wait
t) i
>>>>>>> let waitT i f t = transition tidal
(Sound.Tidal.Transition.waitT f t) i
>>>>>>> let jump i = transition tidal (Sound.Tidal.Transition.jump)
i
>>>>>>> let jumpIn i t = transition tidal
(Sound.Tidal.Transition.jumpIn t) i
>>>>>>> let jumpIn' i t = transition tidal
(Sound.Tidal.Transition.jumpIn' t) i
>>>>>>> let jumpMod i t = transition tidal
(Sound.Tidal.Transition.jumpMod t) i
>>>>>>> let mortal i lifespan release = transition tidal
(Sound.Tidal.Transition.mortal lifespan release) i
>>>>>>> let interpolate i = transition tidal
(Sound.Tidal.Transition.interpolate) i
>>>>>>> let interpolateIn i t = transition tidal
(Sound.Tidal.Transition.interpolateIn t) i
>>>>>>> let clutch i = transition tidal
(Sound.Tidal.Transition.clutch) i
>>>>>>> let clutchIn i t = transition tidal
(Sound.Tidal.Transition.clutchIn t) i
>>>>>>> let anticipate i = transition tidal
(Sound.Tidal.Transition.anticipate) i
>>>>>>> let anticipateIn i t = transition tidal
(Sound.Tidal.Transition.anticipateIn t) i
>>>>>>> let d1 = p 1
>>>>>>> let d2 = p 2
>>>>>>> let d3 = p 3
>>>>>>> let d4 = p 4
>>>>>>> let d5 = p 5
>>>>>>> let d6 = p 6
>>>>>>> let d7 = p 7
>>>>>>> let d8 = p 8
>>>>>>> let d9 = p 9
>>>>>>> let d10 = p 10
>>>>>>> let d11 = p 11
>>>>>>> let d12 = p 12
>>>>>>> let d13 = p 13
>>>>>>> let d14 = p 14
>>>>>>> let d15 = p 15
>>>>>>> let d16 = p 16
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> :set prompt "tidal> "
>>>>>>>
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