On 7 Mar 2019, at 18:12, selcuk artut <selcukartut(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote: hi all, same on here. Although I have managed to run the ptpd and clock sync two mac's, I am getting the same error. No luck with synchronization for two computers. Looking forward to deliver any comments Selcuk ARTUT selcukartut.com <http://selcukartut.com/> facebook.com/selcuk.artut <http://facebook.com/selcuk.artut> Instagram: selcukartut music: rawlivecoding.com <http://rawlivecoding.com/> // replikas.com <http://replikas.com/> arts: zilbermangallery.com <http://zilbermangallery.com/> academics: sabanciuniv.academia.edu/SelcukArtut <http://sabanciuniv.academia.edu/SelcukArtut> // researchgate.net/profile/Selcuk_Artut <http://researchgate.net/profile/Selcuk_Artut> design : filikatasarim.com <http://filikatasarim.com/> On Tue, Mar 5, 2019 at 1:46 PM Konstantinos Vasilakos <konstantinos.vasilakos(a)gmail.com <mailto:konstantinos.vasilakos@gmail.com>> wrote: Hi all, Trying to set up two computers on the same network to sync and change the setcps for both for example, so I am looking on this https://tidalcycles.org/index.php/Multi-user_Tidal <https://tidalcycles.org/index.php/Multi-user_Tidal> I changed the ip address and boot file accordingly to the second computer but when I reboot tidal it says "Exception: Network.Socket.sendTo: unsupported operation (Can't assign requested address)" We haven't yet tried with pdpt as I understood it can also work with the native network clock, unless I have misunderstood something. Boot file on second computer looks like this (network set up line is on the beginning): :set -XOverloadedStrings :set prompt "" :set prompt-cont "" import Sound.Tidal.Context -- total latency = oLatency + cFrameTimespan tidal <- startTidal (superdirtTarget {oLatency = 0.1, oAddress = "127.0.0.1", oPort = 57120}) (defaultConfig {cFrameTimespan = 1/20}) tidal <- startTidal (superdirtTarget {oLatency = 0.02}) (defaultConfig {cFrameTimespan = 1/20, cTempoAddr = "192.168.43.116"}) let p = streamReplace tidal let hush = streamHush tidal let list = streamList tidal let mute = streamMute tidal let unmute = streamUnmute tidal let solo = streamSolo tidal let unsolo = streamUnsolo tidal let once = streamOnce tidal False let asap = streamOnce tidal True let nudgeAll = streamNudgeAll tidal let all = streamAll tidal let resetCycles = streamResetCycles tidal let setcps = asap . cps let xfade i = transition tidal (Sound.Tidal.Transition.xfadeIn 4) i let xfadeIn i t = transition tidal (Sound.Tidal.Transition.xfadeIn t) i let histpan i t = transition tidal (Sound.Tidal.Transition.histpan t) i let wait i t = transition tidal (Sound.Tidal.Transition.wait t) i let waitT i f t = transition tidal (Sound.Tidal.Transition.waitT f t) i let jump i = transition tidal (Sound.Tidal.Transition.jump) i let jumpIn i t = transition tidal (Sound.Tidal.Transition.jumpIn t) i let jumpIn' i t = transition tidal (Sound.Tidal.Transition.jumpIn' t) i let jumpMod i t = transition tidal (Sound.Tidal.Transition.jumpMod t) i let mortal i lifespan release = transition tidal (Sound.Tidal.Transition.mortal lifespan release) i let interpolate i = transition tidal (Sound.Tidal.Transition.interpolate) i let interpolateIn i t = transition tidal (Sound.Tidal.Transition.interpolateIn t) i let clutch i = transition tidal (Sound.Tidal.Transition.clutch) i let clutchIn i t = transition tidal (Sound.Tidal.Transition.clutchIn t) i let anticipate i = transition tidal (Sound.Tidal.Transition.anticipate) i let anticipateIn i t = transition tidal (Sound.Tidal.Transition.anticipateIn t) i let d1 = p 1 let d2 = p 2 let d3 = p 3 let d4 = p 4 let d5 = p 5 let d6 = p 6 let d7 = p 7 let d8 = p 8 let d9 = p 9 let d10 = p 10 let d11 = p 11 let d12 = p 12 let d13 = p 13 let d14 = p 14 let d15 = p 15 let d16 = p 16 :set prompt "tidal> " Save our in-boxes! http://emailcharter.org <http://emailcharter.org/>_______________________________________________ TidalCycles mailing list -- tidal(a)we.lurk.org <mailto:tidal@we.lurk.org> To unsubscribe send an email to tidal-leave(a)we.lurk.org <mailto:tidal-leave@we.lurk.org> _______________________________________________ TidalCycles mailing list -- tidal(a)we.lurk.org To unsubscribe send an email to tidal-leave(a)we.lurk.org

On 14 Mar 2019, at 13:45, Matt Spendlove <matt.spendlove(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote: Hey Alp I don't run a multi computer setup so not sure if I can be much help but I'm curious, are you seeing the same exception messages as Konstantinos or something else? Cheers On Thu, 14 Mar 2019 at 11:12, alp tuğan <alptugan(a)gmail.com <mailto:alptugan@gmail.com>> wrote: Hey there, Is there any duo/group/band performing with multi computers in the community? We could play with two computers in sync before the TidalCycles v 1.0.0 update. Now, we get Exception messages whenever we try to run BootTidal.hs with the following line on the slave computer as stated in the documentation; tidal <- startTidal (superdirtTarget {oLatency = 0.02}) (defaultConfig {cFrameTimespan = 1/20, cTempoAddr = "192.168.0.10"}) Our setup; - 2 identical Macbook 13 inch - OS is High Sierra - Both computers have ethernet cable inputs - Both computers have the latest Haskell release - Both computers have the latest TidalCycles release - Both computers have the latest SuperCollider release What we can do: - Clock Sync via ptpd (source: https://github.com/ptpd/ptpd <https://github.com/ptpd/ptpd>) Works smoothly on both Master and Slave computers which are connected to a basic ADSL modem via network cables. Whenever I change the time/date on the master computer, slave computer syncs to master computer’s time instantly. So, I can say that no problem with clock sync. - Local IP of the computers are static. We can ping them and getting responses. - We can connect through samba server to both computers and access files What we tried to fix the problem; - Run the same BootTidal.hs file on different code editors (VS Code and Atom). But, no luck. - Disable the static IPs - Give access to port(9160) on both UDP/TCP of the ADSL modem. No luck. - Connect two computers with just a network cable without any ADSL modem. No luck. - Dig into source code to find any clues about the debug messages. But no luck. So, we are just stuck and hope to find a solution till our next performance :) Any comments/suggestions would be highly appreciated. Alp TUĞAN personal: alptugan.com <http://alptugan.com/> music: rawlivecoding <http://rawlivecoding.com/> business: filikatasarim.com <http://www.filikatasarim.com/> > On 7 Mar 2019, at 18:12, selcuk artut <selcukartut(a)gmail.com <mailto:selcukartut@gmail.com>> wrote: > > hi all, > same on here. Although I have managed to run the ptpd and clock sync two mac's, I am getting the same error. No luck with synchronization for two computers. > Looking forward to deliver any comments > > Selcuk ARTUT > > selcukartut.com <http://selcukartut.com/> > facebook.com/selcuk.artut <http://facebook.com/selcuk.artut> > Instagram: selcukartut > > music: rawlivecoding.com <http://rawlivecoding.com/> // replikas.com <http://replikas.com/> > arts: zilbermangallery.com <http://zilbermangallery.com/> > academics: sabanciuniv.academia.edu/SelcukArtut <http://sabanciuniv.academia.edu/SelcukArtut> // researchgate.net/profile/Selcuk_Artut <http://researchgate.net/profile/Selcuk_Artut> > design : filikatasarim.com <http://filikatasarim.com/> > > On Tue, Mar 5, 2019 at 1:46 PM Konstantinos Vasilakos <konstantinos.vasilakos(a)gmail.com <mailto:konstantinos.vasilakos@gmail.com>> wrote: > Hi all, > > Trying to set up two computers on the same network to sync and change the setcps for both for example, so I am looking on this https://tidalcycles.org/index.php/Multi-user_Tidal <https://tidalcycles.org/index.php/Multi-user_Tidal> > > I changed the ip address and boot file accordingly to the second computer but when I reboot tidal it says "Exception: Network.Socket.sendTo: unsupported operation (Can't assign requested address)" > > We haven't yet tried with pdpt as I understood it can also work with the native network clock, unless I have misunderstood something. > > Boot file on second computer looks like this (network set up line is on the beginning): > > :set -XOverloadedStrings > :set prompt "" > :set prompt-cont "" > > import Sound.Tidal.Context > > -- total latency = oLatency + cFrameTimespan > tidal <- startTidal (superdirtTarget {oLatency = 0.1, oAddress = "127.0.0.1", oPort = 57120}) (defaultConfig {cFrameTimespan = 1/20}) > tidal <- startTidal (superdirtTarget {oLatency = 0.02}) (defaultConfig {cFrameTimespan = 1/20, cTempoAddr = "192.168.43.116"}) > > > let p = streamReplace tidal > let hush = streamHush tidal > let list = streamList tidal > let mute = streamMute tidal > let unmute = streamUnmute tidal > let solo = streamSolo tidal > let unsolo = streamUnsolo tidal > let once = streamOnce tidal False > let asap = streamOnce tidal True > let nudgeAll = streamNudgeAll tidal > let all = streamAll tidal > let resetCycles = streamResetCycles tidal > let setcps = asap . cps > let xfade i = transition tidal (Sound.Tidal.Transition.xfadeIn 4) i > let xfadeIn i t = transition tidal (Sound.Tidal.Transition.xfadeIn t) i > let histpan i t = transition tidal (Sound.Tidal.Transition.histpan t) i > let wait i t = transition tidal (Sound.Tidal.Transition.wait t) i > let waitT i f t = transition tidal (Sound.Tidal.Transition.waitT f t) i > let jump i = transition tidal (Sound.Tidal.Transition.jump) i > let jumpIn i t = transition tidal (Sound.Tidal.Transition.jumpIn t) i > let jumpIn' i t = transition tidal (Sound.Tidal.Transition.jumpIn' t) i > let jumpMod i t = transition tidal (Sound.Tidal.Transition.jumpMod t) i > let mortal i lifespan release = transition tidal (Sound.Tidal.Transition.mortal lifespan release) i > let interpolate i = transition tidal (Sound.Tidal.Transition.interpolate) i > let interpolateIn i t = transition tidal (Sound.Tidal.Transition.interpolateIn t) i > let clutch i = transition tidal (Sound.Tidal.Transition.clutch) i > let clutchIn i t = transition tidal (Sound.Tidal.Transition.clutchIn t) i > let anticipate i = transition tidal (Sound.Tidal.Transition.anticipate) i > let anticipateIn i t = transition tidal (Sound.Tidal.Transition.anticipateIn t) i > let d1 = p 1 > let d2 = p 2 > let d3 = p 3 > let d4 = p 4 > let d5 = p 5 > let d6 = p 6 > let d7 = p 7 > let d8 = p 8 > let d9 = p 9 > let d10 = p 10 > let d11 = p 11 > let d12 = p 12 > let d13 = p 13 > let d14 = p 14 > let d15 = p 15 > let d16 = p 16 > > :set prompt "tidal> " > > > Save our in-boxes! http://emailcharter.org <http://emailcharter.org/>_______________________________________________ > TidalCycles mailing list -- tidal(a)we.lurk.org <mailto:tidal@we.lurk.org> > To unsubscribe send an email to tidal-leave(a)we.lurk.org <mailto:tidal-leave@we.lurk.org> > _______________________________________________ > TidalCycles mailing list -- tidal(a)we.lurk.org <mailto:tidal@we.lurk.org> > To unsubscribe send an email to tidal-leave(a)we.lurk.org <mailto:tidal-leave@we.lurk.org> _______________________________________________ TidalCycles mailing list -- tidal(a)we.lurk.org <mailto:tidal@we.lurk.org> To unsubscribe send an email to tidal-leave(a)we.lurk.org <mailto:tidal-leave@we.lurk.org> _______________________________________________ TidalCycles mailing list -- tidal(a)we.lurk.org To unsubscribe send an email to tidal-leave(a)we.lurk.org

Hi Konstantinos, Thanks for trying that. I managed to reproduce and fix the problem in tidal. If you could try this out I'd appreciate it: cabal install https://hackage.haskell.org/package/tidal-1.0.9/candidate/tidal-1.0.9.tar.gz Under linux I run ptpd like this: sudo ptpd -m -C -i wlp2s0 -m means 'masterslave', i.e. the master will be nominated automatically -C means stay in foreground, handy so you can see log messages -i wlp2s0 is for setting the interface, wlp2s0 is the name of my wifi network interface in this case. Under linux I find it with the ifconfig command Don't bother setting TIDAL_TEMPO_IP, that is indeed ignored now. Please update the wiki page to improve the instructions if anything there is unclear, cheers alex On Fri, 15 Mar 2019 at 10:06, <konstantinos.vasilakos(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote: > > I tried again with fixing all as noted unclothe bug workaround but no luck. I have two questions, is this supposed to work without ptpd using native syncing clocks or assumes ptpd necessary? If yes, must I expect a notification from ptpd in my terminal, for example is there a msg that would state which one is master and slave as noted in the paper of the ptpd? The other question is, even if I put the remote IP address in the startTidal of the slave computer do I need to start atom with Tidal_Tempo_id “remote ip” command or this is deprecated on Tidal currently? > > > > — > K > > > On 14 Mar 2019, at 22:53, Alex McLean <alex(a)slab.org&gt; wrote: > > > > Hi all, > > > > Konstantinos - you seem to be running startTidal twice, you only need > > to run that once. Take out the first instance but make sure the > > `oLatency` config value is the same on both computers. (You might > > adjust this value later to account for one computer having lower audio > > latency than the other) > > > > "Can't assign requested address" seems to be a mac os x bug: > > https://askubuntu.com/questions/636409/error-cant-assign-requested-addres... > > > > Alp thanks for the clear details, it looks like you have tried the > > troubleshooting I'd suggest. I'll try to reproduce it here, but I > > don't have access to macs, only linux. > > > > cheers > > > >> On Thu, 14 Mar 2019 at 14:56, alp tuğan <alptugan(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote: > >> > >> Hi Matt, > >> Yes, the exception message is the same one at Konstantinos’s message > >> > >> Alp TUĞAN > >> personal: alptugan.com > >> music: rawlivecoding > >> business: filikatasarim.com > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> On 14 Mar 2019, at 13:45, Matt Spendlove <matt.spendlove(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote: > >> > >> Hey Alp > >> > >> I don't run a multi computer setup so not sure if I can be much help but I'm curious, are you seeing the same exception messages as Konstantinos or something else? > >> > >> Cheers > >> > >>> On Thu, 14 Mar 2019 at 11:12, alp tuğan <alptugan(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote: > >>> > >>> Hey there, > >>> > >>> Is there any duo/group/band performing with multi computers in the community? We could play with two computers in sync before the TidalCycles v 1.0.0 update. Now, we get Exception messages whenever we try to run BootTidal.hs with the following line on the slave computer as stated in the documentation; > >>> tidal <- startTidal (superdirtTarget {oLatency = 0.02}) (defaultConfig {cFrameTimespan = 1/20, cTempoAddr = "192.168.0.10"}) > >>> > >>> Our setup; > >>> - 2 identical Macbook 13 inch > >>> - OS is High Sierra > >>> - Both computers have ethernet cable inputs > >>> - Both computers have the latest Haskell release > >>> - Both computers have the latest TidalCycles release > >>> - Both computers have the latest SuperCollider release > >>> > >>> What we can do: > >>> - Clock Sync via ptpd (source: https://github.com/ptpd/ptpd) > >>> Works smoothly on both Master and Slave computers which are connected to a basic ADSL modem via network cables. Whenever I change the time/date on the master computer, slave computer syncs to master computer’s time instantly. So, I can say that no problem with clock sync. > >>> - Local IP of the computers are static. We can ping them and getting responses. > >>> - We can connect through samba server to both computers and access files > >>> > >>> What we tried to fix the problem; > >>> - Run the same BootTidal.hs file on different code editors (VS Code and Atom). But, no luck. > >>> - Disable the static IPs > >>> - Give access to port(9160) on both UDP/TCP of the ADSL modem. No luck. > >>> - Connect two computers with just a network cable without any ADSL modem. No luck. > >>> - Dig into source code to find any clues about the debug messages. But no luck. > >>> > >>> > >>> So, we are just stuck and hope to find a solution till our next performance :) > >>> > >>> > >>> Any comments/suggestions would be highly appreciated. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Alp TUĞAN > >>> personal: alptugan.com > >>> music: rawlivecoding > >>> business: filikatasarim.com > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> On 7 Mar 2019, at 18:12, selcuk artut <selcukartut(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote: > >>> > >>> hi all, > >>> same on here. Although I have managed to run the ptpd and clock sync two mac's, I am getting the same error. No luck with synchronization for two computers. > >>> Looking forward to deliver any comments > >>> > >>> Selcuk ARTUT > >>> > >>> selcukartut.com > >>> facebook.com/selcuk.artut > >>> Instagram: selcukartut > >>> > >>> music: rawlivecoding.com // replikas.com > >>> arts: zilbermangallery.com > >>> academics: sabanciuniv.academia.edu/SelcukArtut // researchgate.net/profile/Selcuk_Artut > >>> design : filikatasarim.com > >>> > >>> > >>>> On Tue, Mar 5, 2019 at 1:46 PM Konstantinos Vasilakos <konstantinos.vasilakos(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote: > >>>> > >>>> Hi all, > >>>> > >>>> Trying to set up two computers on the same network to sync and change the setcps for both for example, so I am looking on this https://tidalcycles.org/index.php/Multi-user_Tidal > >>>> > >>>> I changed the ip address and boot file accordingly to the second computer but when I reboot tidal it says "Exception: Network.Socket.sendTo: unsupported operation (Can't assign requested address)" > >>>> > >>>> We haven't yet tried with pdpt as I understood it can also work with the native network clock, unless I have misunderstood something. > >>>> > >>>> Boot file on second computer looks like this (network set up line is on the beginning): > >>>> > >>>> :set -XOverloadedStrings > >>>> :set prompt "" > >>>> :set prompt-cont "" > >>>> > >>>> import Sound.Tidal.Context > >>>> > >>>> -- total latency = oLatency + cFrameTimespan > >>>> tidal <- startTidal (superdirtTarget {oLatency = 0.1, oAddress = "127.0.0.1", oPort = 57120}) (defaultConfig {cFrameTimespan = 1/20}) > >>>> tidal <- startTidal (superdirtTarget {oLatency = 0.02}) (defaultConfig {cFrameTimespan = 1/20, cTempoAddr = "192.168.43.116"}) > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> let p = streamReplace tidal > >>>> let hush = streamHush tidal > >>>> let list = streamList tidal > >>>> let mute = streamMute tidal > >>>> let unmute = streamUnmute tidal > >>>> let solo = streamSolo tidal > >>>> let unsolo = streamUnsolo tidal > >>>> let once = streamOnce tidal False > >>>> let asap = streamOnce tidal True > >>>> let nudgeAll = streamNudgeAll tidal > >>>> let all = streamAll tidal > >>>> let resetCycles = streamResetCycles tidal > >>>> let setcps = asap . cps > >>>> let xfade i = transition tidal (Sound.Tidal.Transition.xfadeIn 4) i > >>>> let xfadeIn i t = transition tidal (Sound.Tidal.Transition.xfadeIn t) i > >>>> let histpan i t = transition tidal (Sound.Tidal.Transition.histpan t) i > >>>> let wait i t = transition tidal (Sound.Tidal.Transition.wait t) i > >>>> let waitT i f t = transition tidal (Sound.Tidal.Transition.waitT f t) i > >>>> let jump i = transition tidal (Sound.Tidal.Transition.jump) i > >>>> let jumpIn i t = transition tidal (Sound.Tidal.Transition.jumpIn t) i > >>>> let jumpIn' i t = transition tidal (Sound.Tidal.Transition.jumpIn' t) i > >>>> let jumpMod i t = transition tidal (Sound.Tidal.Transition.jumpMod t) i > >>>> let mortal i lifespan release = transition tidal (Sound.Tidal.Transition.mortal lifespan release) i > >>>> let interpolate i = transition tidal (Sound.Tidal.Transition.interpolate) i > >>>> let interpolateIn i t = transition tidal (Sound.Tidal.Transition.interpolateIn t) i > >>>> let clutch i = transition tidal (Sound.Tidal.Transition.clutch) i > >>>> let clutchIn i t = transition tidal (Sound.Tidal.Transition.clutchIn t) i > >>>> let anticipate i = transition tidal (Sound.Tidal.Transition.anticipate) i > >>>> let anticipateIn i t = transition tidal (Sound.Tidal.Transition.anticipateIn t) i > >>>> let d1 = p 1 > >>>> let d2 = p 2 > >>>> let d3 = p 3 > >>>> let d4 = p 4 > >>>> let d5 = p 5 > >>>> let d6 = p 6 > >>>> let d7 = p 7 > >>>> let d8 = p 8 > >>>> let d9 = p 9 > >>>> let d10 = p 10 > >>>> let d11 = p 11 > >>>> let d12 = p 12 > >>>> let d13 = p 13 > >>>> let d14 = p 14 > >>>> let d15 = p 15 > >>>> let d16 = p 16 > >>>> > >>>> :set prompt "tidal> " > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Save our in-boxes! 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I can confirm it works. I can now change the tempo using setcps using two computers connected via Ethernet and running ptpd. I am not sure however why I can only change it from one which was assigned to get master clock from the other that is strange but I will investigate further. Some questions about the latency issue I can calibrate it using # nudge but does this mean that it has to be recalibrated within every connection running? Seems like this atm. Thanks for helping to fix this. — K > On 16 Mar 2019, at 00:00, Alex McLean <alex(a)slab.org&gt; wrote: > > Any successes with this? > >> On Fri, 15 Mar 2019 at 16:44, Alex McLean <alex(a)slab.org&gt; wrote: >> >> Hi Konstantinos, >> >> Thanks for trying that. >> >> I managed to reproduce and fix the problem in tidal. If you could try this out I'd appreciate it: >> cabal install https://hackage.haskell.org/package/tidal-1.0.9/candidate/tidal-1.0.9.tar.gz >> >> Under linux I run ptpd like this: >> >> sudo ptpd -m -C -i wlp2s0 >> >> -m means 'masterslave', i.e. the master will be nominated automatically >> -C means stay in foreground, handy so you can see log messages >> -i wlp2s0 is for setting the interface, wlp2s0 is the name of my wifi network interface in this case. Under linux I find it with the ifconfig command >> >> Don't bother setting TIDAL_TEMPO_IP, that is indeed ignored now. >> >> Please update the wiki page to improve the instructions if anything there is unclear, >> >> cheers >> alex >> >>> On Fri, 15 Mar 2019 at 10:06, <konstantinos.vasilakos(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote: >>> >>> I tried again with fixing all as noted unclothe bug workaround but no luck. I have two questions, is this supposed to work without ptpd using native syncing clocks or assumes ptpd necessary? If yes, must I expect a notification from ptpd in my terminal, for example is there a msg that would state which one is master and slave as noted in the paper of the ptpd? The other question is, even if I put the remote IP address in the startTidal of the slave computer do I need to start atom with Tidal_Tempo_id “remote ip” command or this is deprecated on Tidal currently? >>> >>> >>> >>> — >>> K >>> >>>> On 14 Mar 2019, at 22:53, Alex McLean <alex(a)slab.org&gt; wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi all, >>>> >>>> Konstantinos - you seem to be running startTidal twice, you only need >>>> to run that once. Take out the first instance but make sure the >>>> `oLatency` config value is the same on both computers. (You might >>>> adjust this value later to account for one computer having lower audio >>>> latency than the other) >>>> >>>> "Can't assign requested address" seems to be a mac os x bug: >>>> https://askubuntu.com/questions/636409/error-cant-assign-requested-addres... >>>> >>>> Alp thanks for the clear details, it looks like you have tried the >>>> troubleshooting I'd suggest. I'll try to reproduce it here, but I >>>> don't have access to macs, only linux. >>>> >>>> cheers >>>> >>>>> On Thu, 14 Mar 2019 at 14:56, alp tuğan <alptugan(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi Matt, >>>>> Yes, the exception message is the same one at Konstantinos’s message >>>>> >>>>> Alp TUĞAN >>>>> personal: alptugan.com >>>>> music: rawlivecoding >>>>> business: filikatasarim.com >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 14 Mar 2019, at 13:45, Matt Spendlove <matt.spendlove(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hey Alp >>>>> >>>>> I don't run a multi computer setup so not sure if I can be much help but I'm curious, are you seeing the same exception messages as Konstantinos or something else? >>>>> >>>>> Cheers >>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, 14 Mar 2019 at 11:12, alp tuğan <alptugan(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Hey there, >>>>>> >>>>>> Is there any duo/group/band performing with multi computers in the community? We could play with two computers in sync before the TidalCycles v 1.0.0 update. Now, we get Exception messages whenever we try to run BootTidal.hs with the following line on the slave computer as stated in the documentation; >>>>>> tidal <- startTidal (superdirtTarget {oLatency = 0.02}) (defaultConfig {cFrameTimespan = 1/20, cTempoAddr = "192.168.0.10"}) >>>>>> >>>>>> Our setup; >>>>>> - 2 identical Macbook 13 inch >>>>>> - OS is High Sierra >>>>>> - Both computers have ethernet cable inputs >>>>>> - Both computers have the latest Haskell release >>>>>> - Both computers have the latest TidalCycles release >>>>>> - Both computers have the latest SuperCollider release >>>>>> >>>>>> What we can do: >>>>>> - Clock Sync via ptpd (source: https://github.com/ptpd/ptpd) >>>>>> Works smoothly on both Master and Slave computers which are connected to a basic ADSL modem via network cables. Whenever I change the time/date on the master computer, slave computer syncs to master computer’s time instantly. So, I can say that no problem with clock sync. >>>>>> - Local IP of the computers are static. We can ping them and getting responses. >>>>>> - We can connect through samba server to both computers and access files >>>>>> >>>>>> What we tried to fix the problem; >>>>>> - Run the same BootTidal.hs file on different code editors (VS Code and Atom). But, no luck. >>>>>> - Disable the static IPs >>>>>> - Give access to port(9160) on both UDP/TCP of the ADSL modem. No luck. >>>>>> - Connect two computers with just a network cable without any ADSL modem. No luck. >>>>>> - Dig into source code to find any clues about the debug messages. But no luck. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> So, we are just stuck and hope to find a solution till our next performance :) >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Any comments/suggestions would be highly appreciated. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Alp TUĞAN >>>>>> personal: alptugan.com >>>>>> music: rawlivecoding >>>>>> business: filikatasarim.com >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 7 Mar 2019, at 18:12, selcuk artut <selcukartut(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> hi all, >>>>>> same on here. Although I have managed to run the ptpd and clock sync two mac's, I am getting the same error. No luck with synchronization for two computers. >>>>>> Looking forward to deliver any comments >>>>>> >>>>>> Selcuk ARTUT >>>>>> >>>>>> selcukartut.com >>>>>> facebook.com/selcuk.artut >>>>>> Instagram: selcukartut >>>>>> >>>>>> music: rawlivecoding.com // replikas.com >>>>>> arts: zilbermangallery.com >>>>>> academics: sabanciuniv.academia.edu/SelcukArtut // researchgate.net/profile/Selcuk_Artut >>>>>> design : filikatasarim.com >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 5, 2019 at 1:46 PM Konstantinos Vasilakos <konstantinos.vasilakos(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi all, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Trying to set up two computers on the same network to sync and change the setcps for both for example, so I am looking on this https://tidalcycles.org/index.php/Multi-user_Tidal >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I changed the ip address and boot file accordingly to the second computer but when I reboot tidal it says "Exception: Network.Socket.sendTo: unsupported operation (Can't assign requested address)" >>>>>>> >>>>>>> We haven't yet tried with pdpt as I understood it can also work with the native network clock, unless I have misunderstood something. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Boot file on second computer looks like this (network set up line is on the beginning): >>>>>>> >>>>>>> :set -XOverloadedStrings >>>>>>> :set prompt "" >>>>>>> :set prompt-cont "" >>>>>>> >>>>>>> import Sound.Tidal.Context >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- total latency = oLatency + cFrameTimespan >>>>>>> tidal <- startTidal (superdirtTarget {oLatency = 0.1, oAddress = "127.0.0.1", oPort = 57120}) (defaultConfig {cFrameTimespan = 1/20}) >>>>>>> tidal <- startTidal (superdirtTarget {oLatency = 0.02}) (defaultConfig {cFrameTimespan = 1/20, cTempoAddr = "192.168.43.116"}) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> let p = streamReplace tidal >>>>>>> let hush = streamHush tidal >>>>>>> let list = streamList tidal >>>>>>> let mute = streamMute tidal >>>>>>> let unmute = streamUnmute tidal >>>>>>> let solo = streamSolo tidal >>>>>>> let unsolo = streamUnsolo tidal >>>>>>> let once = streamOnce tidal False >>>>>>> let asap = streamOnce tidal True >>>>>>> let nudgeAll = streamNudgeAll tidal >>>>>>> let all = streamAll tidal >>>>>>> let resetCycles = streamResetCycles tidal >>>>>>> let setcps = asap . cps >>>>>>> let xfade i = transition tidal (Sound.Tidal.Transition.xfadeIn 4) i >>>>>>> let xfadeIn i t = transition tidal (Sound.Tidal.Transition.xfadeIn t) i >>>>>>> let histpan i t = transition tidal (Sound.Tidal.Transition.histpan t) i >>>>>>> let wait i t = transition tidal (Sound.Tidal.Transition.wait t) i >>>>>>> let waitT i f t = transition tidal (Sound.Tidal.Transition.waitT f t) i >>>>>>> let jump i = transition tidal (Sound.Tidal.Transition.jump) i >>>>>>> let jumpIn i t = transition tidal (Sound.Tidal.Transition.jumpIn t) i >>>>>>> let jumpIn' i t = transition tidal (Sound.Tidal.Transition.jumpIn' t) i >>>>>>> let jumpMod i t = transition tidal (Sound.Tidal.Transition.jumpMod t) i >>>>>>> let mortal i lifespan release = transition tidal (Sound.Tidal.Transition.mortal lifespan release) i >>>>>>> let interpolate i = transition tidal (Sound.Tidal.Transition.interpolate) i >>>>>>> let interpolateIn i t = transition tidal (Sound.Tidal.Transition.interpolateIn t) i >>>>>>> let clutch i = transition tidal (Sound.Tidal.Transition.clutch) i >>>>>>> let clutchIn i t = transition tidal (Sound.Tidal.Transition.clutchIn t) i >>>>>>> let anticipate i = transition tidal (Sound.Tidal.Transition.anticipate) i >>>>>>> let anticipateIn i t = transition tidal (Sound.Tidal.Transition.anticipateIn t) i >>>>>>> let d1 = p 1 >>>>>>> let d2 = p 2 >>>>>>> let d3 = p 3 >>>>>>> let d4 = p 4 >>>>>>> let d5 = p 5 >>>>>>> let d6 = p 6 >>>>>>> let d7 = p 7 >>>>>>> let d8 = p 8 >>>>>>> let d9 = p 9 >>>>>>> let d10 = p 10 >>>>>>> let d11 = p 11 >>>>>>> let d12 = p 12 >>>>>>> let d13 = p 13 >>>>>>> let d14 = p 14 >>>>>>> let d15 = p 15 >>>>>>> let d16 = p 16 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> :set prompt "tidal> " >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Save our in-boxes! 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